Texas Mother Given 5 Years Probation for Spanking Her Daughter

Rosalina GonzalesRosalina Gonzales, a mother of three from Corpus Christi, Texas, was sentenced to five years’ probation, a $50 fine, and parenting classes after pleading guilty to spanking her two-year-old daughter on the rear-end last December under the charge of “Injury to a Child.” Gonzales did not use an object to spank her daughter, and the spank did not leave a bruise, but when the child’s grandmother noticed red marks, she took the child to the hospital.

The grandmother has custody of Gonzalez’s three children, though Gonzales is working with local Child Protective Services to regain custody.

At the sentencing hearing, 214th District Court Judge Jose Longoria admonished Gonzales that spanking is not acceptable in this day and age.

“You don’t spank children today,” said Longoria, “in the old days, maybe we got spanked, but there was a different quarrel. You don’t spank children. You understand?”

A Child Protective Services spokesperson told KZTV, a Corpus Christi station, that though the law does not forbid spanking, the practice is criminal when it injures a child.

What is your opinion of spanking as a form of discipline?

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  1. by Nick Shell

    On June 20, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    I think because it’s now politically incorrect to spank your child, those who do spank their child are afraid to publicly admit it. Despite the fact that most of my generation was spanked as children.

  2. by Tamara Brighty

    On June 20, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    I think this is wrong. Children are growing into indecent, narcissistic, lying, thieving, spoilt brats now days since we cant spank them. I was beaten bad by my dad and I ended up being a good person. Dont forget , these undisciplined kids will be running the world soon. Lets see how we all make it then!

  3. by G Mom

    On June 20, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Depending on the severity of the spanking, I believe in it!!!! This world has gone C R A Z Z Z Y…./=

  4. by DeVonna

    On June 20, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    I am all for spanking and I do spank my children. I don’t hide the fact from anybody. I think thats whats wrong with children today. Crime is up, drugs is up, kids think there is no punishment for doing somthing wrong. I never leave bruises, just use my hand.

  5. by Heather Rudow

    On June 20, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    When did it become acceptable for the government to tell us how we can and cannot parent our children? As long as the child is not being abused, it is none of anyone’s business. The lack of discipline these days is why we have such a lazy, self absorbed society. We do not hold anyone responsible for anything! Children know these days that the parents do not have control and therefore, they can just do whatever they feel like. It’s going to be a serious issue with our children in the future.

  6. by Marina

    On June 20, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    wow!
    Not a fan of spanking myself, but seriously 5 years probation for spanking her kiddo on the butt? My parents would have been put away for life then, and I was by no means physically abused or anything. Tad bit excessive…

  7. by PWK

    On June 20, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    I will flat out admit I spank my children. So we are supposed to let them run wild. It was accepted back in the day and it is still okay today. Use your hand, do it once to prove a point, and only on the butt and I find that perfectly acceptable. I am 27. I know what it’s like to get spanked and I had a wonderful childhood. I will raise my children the same way. To say we don’t spank in this day and age is completely out of line. That is an opinion and a judge should not base a punishment based on his personal beliefs. This case is dumb.

  8. by Mary

    On June 20, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    Proverbs 13:24 He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.
    I’m not an abuser, but my daughter will be disciplined! I’m from Corpus Christi, this case is not the worst thing that happens there. That grandmother is probably just trying to start trouble, I can almost guarantee that she spanked her own kids. What is she trying to do to her own daughter?

  9. by Nikki

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    This is exactly why kids are as bad as they are today. Why they walk all over their parents and have no respect for people. If I miss behaved I got 1 warning and if I did it again I got spanked. I turned out just fine. I don’t think it should be anyone’s business how I discipline my child. They didn’t carry her for 9 months and they sure as hell weren’t there giving my husband and I pointers when we made her either.

  10. by Court's Mommy

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    I think that there are certain things kids need to be spanked for. They shouldn’t be beaten, but in certain instances a spanking will correct the negative behavior. I was spanked growing up, and I am fine. That ruling is ridiculous! Now, when my son gets to be 2 or 3 and I think he needs a spanking, what will happen?

  11. by Renee Johnson

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    This is so ridiculous! All charges should be dropped! Anybody wonder why children are getting so out of hand these days? Because parents are afraid to discipline them!

  12. by Momma

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    It isn’t against the law to spank your child if you are the parent… Well according to the fostering Classes my parents went to.. But that is also with out leaving a mark.. If the child’s butt is still red that must have been a HARD spank.. I agree with Tamara.. I was spanked as a child and I truned out Just fine and I know my parents love and respect me as an adult now.. because of them I grew in to a responsable adult.. My brother is a Police officer of the Law now and I’m a care provider for children… I think They did amazingly Fine! :)

  13. by April

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    I think this is a bunch of crap and people wonder why kids are such brats now a days and have no respect for anyone or anything! It’s not like she slapped her in the face or anything crazy like that! It was on her bottom!

  14. by rae

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    This is why the prisons are overflowing with our children now. I have had my fair share of spankings, and although a lil excessive, it did the job. I thought twice before doing stuff that I knew I had no business. I will spank a kids ass, if it is going to keep the police from beating the crap out of them later. Children today are very disrespectful and you can clearly see that time outs and taking things away does not work for every child. I WILL SPANK IF NECESSARY and if it keeps my child from being a disrespectful menance to society.. I WILL GLADLY STAND AND TAKE MY 5 YEARS PROBATION FOR DOING SO.

  15. by His Momma

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    1. I was spanked as a child. That is probably 75% of the reason I am not in prison or the system. When I got spanked I knew I messed up and in the future knew what my limits were with my parents.
    2. Kids these days walk around with no respect, moral, or knowledge of right and wrong because they aren’t allowed to be “spanked” I will be damned! if my child acts as the kids these days do!
    3. I do and will continue to spank my child when warrented. I do no bruise him or break him.. But he will know when he crosses a line.. Like the other day he smacked me his mother 3 times and I reached out and touched his behind. He hasn’t raised his hand to me since!

    The government does not live in my house nor do they pay my bills and rent.. So I’ll be damned again if they tell me how I can and can’t parent.

  16. by Jessyca

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    WHAT?!?!

    That is outrageous! Now the court system wants to have a say in how I discipline my child. She is 1 and she ran out towards the road the other day after I told her to stop. (She knows stop, she hears it daily when we approach the top of the stairs) I swatted her butt for not listening to me. I’ll be d***ed if someone is going to tell me that it as wrong and that I should be in jail. That is most definitely what is wrong with kids nowadays, no discipline and with judgements like this, the parents hands are tied. My daughter will not walk all over me.

  17. by Jennifer Soto

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    I think that it is crazy that people today are afraid to spank their children. Mind you there is a big difference between “spanking” and “beating”. It is not a crime to spank your child but it is a crime to beat your child. I spank my kids and will gladly do so in public if it is needed. I refuse to teach my children that it is ok to disobey or act out in public or at home. I am a Christ Follower and I believe that the Bible is the infalible word of God and in my Bible it says,”He who spares his rod hates his son,
    But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.” Proverbs 13:34. I love my children and it is our JOB as parents to make sure that our children grow to be productive members of society that are able to care for themselves and others. I cringe at the thought of the generations that are being raised today without discipline when they grow up to run this country. All I can say is that those parents who are more interested in being their child’s friend than parent to get a backbone and DARE TO DISCIPLINE!!!

  18. by Laurie Goodner

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    First I dont believe you need to spank a 2 yr old, now older children I believe sometimes they may need a spanking depends on the situation and you should never spank when you leave any marks or injure a child and not when you are angry.. I think alot of it is there are parents that hurt their children and agree that shouldnt happen but I also think it should be up to the parent to discipline a unruly child maybee if they did there wouldnt be so much trouble with our young adults and teenagers now with bullying,under age drinking, drugs, lack of respect for themselves and adults I believe if you do not discipline your children they tend to walk all over you and everyone else!!

  19. by MIssy

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Is this a joke??? With everything going on in the US right now, and they are spending their time reprimanding a mom for spanking her child? This is so ridiculous, my mom would have been locked up then! I thank her for the way she parented me everyday, spanking and all.

  20. by Cat

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    I believe in spanking. And will not let somebody tell my husband and I other wise? And next time all you against spanking want to complain about that screaming child in the restaurant! While ur trying to eat peacefully, check yourself… Because that is what your asking for! Kids need discipline in their lives at every age…. Grow up. It worked back in the day and it will continue to work now and forever. As long as you don’t cross the line.

  21. by amanda

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    This is crazy i was spanked as a child,I spank my chidren. I turned out to be a good person. my kids are honor role students.There is a differance between disiplne and abuse. Its not what punishments you use its if you follow through with what you say. And if you are an involved parent. Sometimes kids need a good spanking. I see kids all the time that are out of control and sometimes time outs dont work.

  22. by Christene Potts

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    I fully believe in spanking..that’s the reason these kids now act the way they do.. I really for sorry for the next generation coming up..no morals at all!! My parents spanked us when we needed or deserved it and we all turned out to be good people. Like the bible says spare the rod spoil the child. It does not say anything about the judicial system being involved in it!!!

  23. by Patricia

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    I believe that spanking, when done appropriately, is completely acceptable. Every child is different and some children do not need discipline in the form of a spanking, but for some children it works the most effectively. I was spanked as a child…never out of anger or excessive…and I am glad that my parents spanked me and I tell them that on a regular basis. I, too, have seen too many children run their household and parents lose all control and I think its so sad. People may not think its a big deal when they are 3, but eventually they grow up and a lack of discipline results in a rude, lazy adult. I don’t plan on using spankings as my first choice of discipline, but it will be an option if needed.

  24. by Liz

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    I got spanked with a belt! I dadgum near got my butt spanked on a daily basis. I am pretty certain that I am doing okay and there is no emotional or physical scarring from being spanked… This is ridiculous

  25. by Zita

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    I bet grandmother is her mother in law!

  26. by L

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    So, beating our children is OK now by all of you {looking at Tamara}? Violence begets violence. Bullying is bullying. I was spanked with a board, belt, hand, etc. I refuse to be that way with my kids, and I DON’T have “spoiled brats”. Maybe if parents were a little less lazy overall, the problems the previous posters spoke of would be eliminated.

  27. by L

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    Just to add…I also don’t use fairy tale books to raise my children, so that whole “spare the rod” nonsense holds no weight with me.

  28. by Dobz

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    i have three children, and when they all get out of line , i pick up the youngest by her leg and swing her like a paddle and bust my kids upside the head…. never leaves a mark, and they ALL get the point LOL just kidding… but i do believe that there is something underlying here with the grandmother, i bet shes been trying to get custody of these kids for a while…

  29. by Nicole

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    im pretty sure everybody got spanked one time or another. this is pretty lame why this lady is getting 5yrs pro. we all turned out fine! and yes i guess it depends on the severity, but kids need discipline these days!! there outa control!!

  30. by Kevin

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Using violence as discipline sends the wrong message. I was spanked and I don’t feel I am scarred for life by it but I do not feel it is the best way to raise a child. Our world has enough violence in it, I feel it has no place in the home.

  31. by chriscaitbre mom

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    I think this is crazy, there is nothing wrong with spanking your child to teach them right from wrong. Their is a difference between spanking your child and beating your child. The grandma just used this as a way to get the upper hand in the courts. I bet the grandmother spanked the mother of these children when she was growing up. Some people are just awful to one another and for a mother to her use her child’s children like a pawn in a game make me sick and it makes me even sicker that the courts uphold these people. There are children out there that are really being abused and the courts do nothing. Now, when these kids grow up to be juvenile delinquents I bet the court will be ready to throw the book at the mother again for not raising her children properly when they are the reason she couldn’t raise them properly.

  32. by Lisa Mcdonald

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Although spanking kids is not always the best idea, and we may have been spanked as children it should not be criminal unless it does harm the child. There are so many great books and programs out there now to help us be better parents. Our parents did not have those resources. Sometimes parent don’t know what else to do but spank, or take their own anger and frustration out on their kids. I also don’t think you should yell and scream at kids, but that’s not to say I don’t do it!! We should all take lessons from Jo on The Nanny!! lol…but seriously, maybe her kid needed that spanking!!!

  33. by Ugh

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    This is ludicrous! That judge is really crossing the line! Am I pro-spanking? no. Do I believe that a pat on the hiney is abuse? no.
    Sounds like the grandmother wants to keep custody of the kids so is making a case against her daughter.
    Brings me to a question…is the grandmother a nut case that is damaging the kids against their own mother rather than helping her daughter (mental abuse…much harder to document and prove) or is there a history of physical abuse in which the grandmother is terrified the mother will regain custody and hurt the kids, so is taking any means necessary to ensure the safety of the kids?
    Unless there is proof of previous abuse the judge should be smacking down gramma for emotional/mental abuse. Parenting classes for both gramma and daughter would be a good idea…maybe make them take the classes together so that they can work on raising the children together with mutual respect and in a consistent environment.
    Oh…and good for the mom for not trying to go the Not Guilty plea route.

  34. by denise thomason

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    beating children we all know is wrong, this mother spanked her daughter only leaving her bottom red,,,it is not the governments/courts duty to step in and tell a mother/father how to raise their children,,,America better wake up, our rights are being stolen from us left and right, as you see in on chicago school they are mandating what a person can allow their children to eat for lunch, and if this judge has kids I bet he spanked them once or twice, Pitiful,,,:(

  35. by Renee

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    seriosly….? how dare the judge take the ways of raising our children out of our hands, I think I would sue him and his court system for wrongdoing.

  36. by lmay

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    I believe there is both physical and emotional damaged from spanking, if it is a repeated practice. Can’t speculate on the degree of spanking in this case (marks WERE mentioned) but if someone starts hitting you, you think you aren’t going to have some emotional damage from it?? And you are an adult, not a kid. Do you think hitting a kid teaches them to treat others with kindness, love and respect. It probably does give you the desired outcome at least right in that moment- because they are scared shitless of you. The long term implications are proven in study after study, do the research. The odds are not in favor of spanking being good long term for a kid- and with something so precious as an innocent life given to you, why would you want to take any chance whatsoever? I know this doesn’t apply to everyone, but to those who quote scripture, please stop using religion as your crutch to hit your child.

  37. by Kathy

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    This is unreal. SPARE THE ROD, HATE THE CHILD Take God out of the schools then discipline from a whole generation and we have a whole generation of IDIOTS.

  38. by Olivia

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    I was spanked as a kid and deserved every one that I got! We are going to have a generation of little terrors because of cases like this scaring parents out of punishing. I spank my kids for anything that can really hurt them or kill them and do not regret it. OH!!! FYI!!! BEATING IS DIFFERENT FROM SPANKING.People who beat there children deserve to go to jail. However, you can not justify a couple of red marks as a beating. So please people….don’t try and turn this into “oh, so its ok to beat your kids!!”.

  39. by michelle

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    you can’t spank your kids, yell at your kids etc or else your a bad parent…theeeennnnn when your kid beats up other kids steals etc, your a bad parent lol.. i got my ass whooped by one of those big unbreakable plastic spoons lol. no marks were ever left i am just peachy keen now no trama from it. but i grew up respecting my elders and knowing not to do wrong as there are consequences to my actions. growing up seeing the other kids who never got punished call their moms bitches and giving them the middle finger stealing going on house arrest all the while thinking if someone woulda just wacked that kid upside the head maybe he wouldn’t be 30 still stealing not able to hold a job for lack of respect of workers etc.. people have really gotta stop thinking kids are china dolls.. i woulda hated to of grown up like some of my friends learning most the lessons in life the hard way jail etc.

  40. by Sarah

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    I think a lot of people are missing the point. The grandmother saw a mark left on the child. This isn’t an older child, she’s 2. To leave a mark on a toddler it must have been a pretty severe spanking. Say what you want but spanking a 2 year old that hard is not okay. Not to mention, studies have shown that spanking is linked to lower intelligence and low self-esteem in children. The judge was right to do what he did. For the record, my children aren’t spanked and they are both very well behaved, polite young individuals who won’t end up in jail. Not spanking doesn’t mean not disciplining.

  41. by J

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Won’t be long before putting a child in a corner would be consider “child negligence.” What’s Supernanny going to do when that happens?

  42. by JM

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    I’m confused… If the law does not specifically state that spanking a child is illegal and the child was not physically harmed from a swat on the bottom… How can she be charged with a crime and then furthermore be sentenced for such crime? Was her lawyerba public defender or something?!? Charges should have been dismissed. The judge is out of line and trying to promote their own propaganda.

  43. by jim

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    It is VERY easy to leave a mark on a 2 year old Sarah. They do have delicate skin and maybe she might have smacked the child a bit hard once to leave the reddness but that doesnt = a mark. A mark is a BRUISE which was not left on the child. You can not spank your children all you want you may have gotten lucky. But sometimes a child needs to be spanked not reasoned with.

  44. by J

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    PS: I was spanked. A lot. If I have low self-esteem, then Michael Jackson was born white. My IQ is above average (did I mention I don’t have low self-esteem?) My bank account is pretty good and my school transcript, although not stellar, is above norm. I have many friends, loved by most (can’t please everyone) and married to the love of my life.

    By the way, I’m not the only one.

    I’m guessing the study that Sarah mentioned didn’t talk to people like me. Now isn’t that a coincident?

  45. by Cary Cadena

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    I live in Corpus Christi, Texas also and I believe in spanking children, if spanking was a crime when I was a child my mother would have gotten the chair. All these people “blogging in” are correct. What is the reason younger people today are so ridiculous in their demeanor, and actions. First of all I am a mild mannered, short and cordial man, still every other day I get stared at by some young dumb-ass as if to say he will kick my ass, and young women too, I cannot even be nice and smile because they look at me like I’m a creep and they show it(discuss in their face), and I can’t be nice to any young person because they see it as a sign of weekness, and young girls again, act like idiots when I hold the door open for them and they don’t say “thank you”. All the boys are hard and all the girls are hot, this is what they think. All young people think they are what they see on film and tv. What the young women don’t know is that I am a super guy, with a big heart and with a high respect for women, I champion for women and their equality. What the young men don’t know is that I am a champion ahtlete and fighter, never lost a fight, always excelled at sports even at a National level, grew up in Los Angeles, California barrios where I learned the hard life and excelled at that too. So you go ahead mother who spanked her child and got 5 yrs probation, go ahead and do your thing, we are behind you. Cause if you don’t teach those children decipline, young women will grow up to miss out on a fantastic man for a husband, and young men will grow up to get knocked out be a mild mannered, short and cordial man.

  46. by Lturner

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    I can not believe this! Don’t get me wrong I do not believe in BEATING children however, I do believe in setting limitation to children and this starts at birth. So if a two year old was throwing a fit or needed to be disciplined, verbally or physically that is the decision as a parent! No one is perfect, we all make mistakes but this judge is out of line..and I hope she appeals this as this case may just set precedence for other cases…how do you like your government telling you how to raise your children…next it will be that you can not yell at your kids! Common Sense is not so Common!

  47. by Heather

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    This made my stomach turn. I think the judge needs to be spanked, along with a parent who thinks you should never spank your child. I am sure your the parent of that child who stabbed my child with a pencil last week at school. That’s why you have child murders and 12 year old’s in prison, they have no morals or respect. I hear 9 year old’s using the f word to their parents. I am 33 and I still would never swear at my parents. This is also the reason why every time I go into public area all I see and hear are children misbehaving because parents are too scared they will get arrested if anyone sees them spank the child. I could go on for days. P.S. too the mother who says her children are not spoiled brats, I am sure they are because all good parents with decent normal children can admit to the fact that their kids can act like brats sometimes. Too get so defensive, probably means your kids are really big spoiled brats.

  48. by cynthia

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    The charge to me is ridiculous there is nothing wrong with spanking a child! There is a difference between spanking and beating. Maybe there would be fewer totally out of control kids if they had been spanked on the butt rather than parents letting them do what ever they like. No discipline breeds horrible kids that soon will be running our country as horrible, self entitled out of control adults. I am behind this mother 100%!

  49. by nomer15

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Spanking is an acceptable form of discipline when administered appropriately and out of love, not anger. What is completely inappropriate and unacceptable is the government stepping in and telling parents how to discipline their children. After all, look at what big government has done to this nation!

  50. by Amanda

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    I do use spanking, but they are reserved for serious situations. A child running out towards the street is serious, they need to know without a doubt that is non-negotiable. As for leaving a mark, that depends on the child. One of my daughters has super sensitive skin and it takes nothing to leave a mark. Don’t assume that a red mark means she was beating her. Also who knows what the child was doing…. was she talking to much or did she just beat another child with a toy. Since there are no details it is hard to pass judgement on anyone.

  51. by Lisa

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    I think spanking is ok, I use it w my kids. My kids know if you act up and I tell u more then twice to act right, to do something or not to do it, or they mouth back to me. They will get spanked. I don’t care if its at home or in public. IV spanked at walmart and had a lady yell at me, I told her to mind her business and take care of her own child who was running around acting crazy. As long as you don’t abuse the child then I say do what u need to do, its your child.

  52. by Cary Cadena

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    I live in Corpus Christi, Texas also and I believe in spanking children, if spanking was a crime when I was a child my mother would have gotten the chair. All these people “blogging in” are correct. What is the reason younger people today are so ridiculous in their demeanor, and actions. First of all I am a mild mannered, short and cordial man, still every other day I get stared at by some young dumb-ass as if to say he will kick my ass, and young women too, I cannot even be nice and smile because they look at me like I’m a creep and they show it(discuss in their face), and I can’t be nice to any young person because they see it as a sign of weekness, and young girls again, act like idiots when I hold the door open for them and they don’t say “thank you”. All the boys are hard and all the girls are hot, this is what they think. All young people think they are what they see on film and tv. What the young women don’t know is that I am a super guy, with a big heart and with a high respect for women, I champion for women and their equality. What the young men don’t know is that I am a champion ahtlete and fighter, never lost a fight, always excelled at sports even at a National level, grew up in Los Angeles, California barrios where I learned the hard life and excelled at that too. So you go ahead mother who spanked her child and got 5 yrs probation, go ahead and do your thing, we are behind you. Cause if you don’t teach those children decipline, young women will grow up to miss out on a fantastic man for a husband, and young men will grow up to get knocked out by a mild mannered, short and cordial man.

  53. by Kerrie

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    It is ludicris that the judicial system of today will take the adolescents that were brought up wrong & got turned into hoodrats & young killers & they’ll send them to a juvenile facility, while the parents who are raising their children the right way are being fined & imprisoned for trying to teach the children the right way to act to not end up at a psych facility before adulthood or at any age! We are not allowed to discipline todays kids in any way shape or form in the eyes of the law, BUT when our children beat the shit out of US, its ok, because there kids. Unreal, it makes it not even worth having children anymore, because no matter how we raise them the system is corrupt, it has been for yrs., & kids are going to use that to their advantage, in the systems eyes, the children are Always right, the parents are Always wrong, it was just a spanking for christ sakes! Are you going to sit her in a cell next to Susan Smith now? Sad world we live in, remind me never to go to Texas, The End.

  54. by s dad

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    I have 2 toddlers and a very lite pop on the butt leaves a red mark. I don’t beat my children or abuse them, but a little pop on the butt does them some good. So all you parents that think spanking is wrong and hurts thier feelings, next time your toddler throws a temper tantrum or bites you ( cause all toddlers go through that phase) you tell them no no my little angle, and I’ll spank mine!!!!

  55. by yadira

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    I might be the only one who thinks kids should not be spanked. They are smart enough to learn from punishment and time out. I work with kids at schools and they do follow rules without the need of spanking. A reward and consequence consistant form of dicipline exist and it works. We cannot blame these kids for being out of control. We the parents and adults are their examples. If we yell, hit and are disrespectful this is the kind of behavior they’ll pick up. 5 yrs is a little over board but some of us sure need some parenting classes. Not passing any judment on to others because parenting is a VERY had job, but I have heard parents tell their kids, “don’t you fucken curse”

  56. by Heather

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    I do spank my children. It is not excessive, and it does not injure them, but it is enough to teach them the lesson I want them to learn. I am very careful to not spank out of anger or frustration, but out of a desire to see my children grow up to become good friends, employees, spouses, parents, and citizens.

    My son is only two. At his age, reasoning and/or revoking privileges does not work. A young child does not understand long terms consequences, but at a very young age kids can understand, “If I do ______________, I get a spanking.”

    If I spank my son for running out into the road when he’s been, letting go of my hand in a parking lot, or reaching out to touch a hot stove when he’s been told not to, he is much less likely to try any of those things again than if I put him in time out, take away a privilege, or threaten him with consequences if he does it again. Yes, spanking hurts my son for a few minutes, but I would much rather have him hurt from a spanking than have him hurt (or worse) from running out into a parking lot. I spank because I love my kids.

  57. by Lori

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    I believe that there is a BIG difference between a spanking and a beating. My ex beat me and my oldest and I have taken him to court about it numerous times and each time he gets a slap on the wrist and some parenting classes.

    What upsets me more about this article is that the government is getting more and more control over how we as parents are supposed to raise our children.

  58. by Zita

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Probably Judge and Grandma are in a relationship! What else?

  59. by Joi

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Well we see where the majority stands. And I agree. Years ago people were more polite and respectful of one another. Now it just gets worse with each generation, the kids are running the house and the parents are paying the bills…something is very wrong with this picture.

    funny thing is YOU as the parent are held responsible when your kid is underage destroying property and stealing, running a muck around town. So, what is the lesson we teach our children today “Don’t be responsible for your actions, its ok your a kid”??? Then there suppose to grow up to be responsible, well-rounded adults?? Ha! The world is goin to hell in a hand basket!

    As for L who doesn’t give her kids discipline or religion, God help us all when her kids start to run a muck!

  60. by Katie

    On June 20, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    I believe in spanking but as a last resort type of thing when you have exhausted all other means or in huge situations (such as the example of running for the road.

    My 18 month old right now responds to a firm no and being redirected away from what he’s doing. Sometimes it takes a few times but he eventually stops

  61. by Lyndsay

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    The government has no right to say we can’t spank our children. I was spanked, not super regularly but on occasion when I did something really rebellious when I knew it was wrong and it didn’t emotionally harm me! If my parents didn’t spank me I would have been a spoiled disrespectful brat like a lot of children today. I turned into a spoiled, disrespectful brat when I got into high school; Coincidently my parents were no longer spanking me at that point. Five years??? Seriously? What a waste of tax payer money.

  62. by baseballmom

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    I think this is absolutely absurd. Leads to low intelligence and low self esteem…I’m sorry, that is defined as abuse not spanking. I was spanked as a child and I grew up just fine. No problems here. So those of you who don’t believe in spanking, fine, I hope it works well for you, but don’t judge me because that is the route I take with my kids….

  63. by Noelle

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    The root of the word Discipline means to TEACH not to spank. Hitting (and spanking) a child teaches them to fear you and that violence is OK. There are MANY effective discipline techniques, spanking is NOT one of them. Spanking a 2 year old child to the point of leaving red marks later should raise red flags to others in the community. This mother needs to learn that effective parenting does not involve spanking or physical punishment. The grandmother was wise to get help for this family.
    Spanking does not teach morals or manners – parents do. If there is a growing lack in either, it is not because parents don’t spank their kids, but rather they aren’t teaching them morals and manners.

  64. by Lynn

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    This is absolutely ridiculous. First of all no “injury” occured. There wasn’t even a bruise; I promise you my child has had MORE bruises from playing soccer or baseball than from a dang spanking.

    Second, the GOVERNMENT should step out of people’s business and let parents raise their children how they see fit *as long as it does not cross the line into abuse such as leaving bruises, burning, no supervision, those kinds of things*.
    A little spanking is meant for a child to stop (immediately) a certain action. It’s not even considered child abuse in TX, so what the heck?

    Lastly, we need to worry more about the kids whose parents DON’T admit to what they do; the ones who abuse their children by name-calling (while telling everyone they don’t spank) or withholding meals or letting boyfriends molest them.

    The system is so screwed up that Caylee Anthony gets murdered, Joshua Davis is STILL missing, and Madyson Bogard is dead at the hands of her mother’s child-molesting boyfriend and so many more incidences like the above are continuing to happen while these kids slip thru the cracks AND YET we’re concerned with a SPANKING? Wow. Just ridiculous.

    I spank my kids, will continue to do that along with many other methods that work so that my children do not 1) join a gang and get the $hit beat out of them 2) go to jail 3) end up in a situation that could ruin their lives. I want to teach them right, TODAY, so that they don’t screw up TOMORROW. I hope this woman appeals that and gets some kind of money for wrongful charges being brought against her. I also have a feeling “grandma” here had some other motive for turning in her daughter, and not because she truly thought the kid was abused.

  65. by Steph

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    The Bible isn’t a fairytale Cinderella is. I spank, but never with my hand because I don’t want my kids to fear my touch. I have researched lots about discipline and I think ignoring tan trums or time outs just don’t work. Each child is different and requires something different. And two year olds do need discipline. Kids are smarter than we think and know when there breaking rules. I’d rather have disciplined now as toddlers than wait til their out of hand 6 year olds.

  66. by Stacey

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    I am against spanking. I think it’s wrong. However, I use it once in a very great while when I’m at my wit’s end. Then I feel badly that I’ve done so. As most of us at my age, I was spanked regularly, with a belt, on bare skin. It takes more than one generation to change something like this that is so ingrained in the way we were raised.

    Yes, kids are running crazy and have no respect for authority. They are lazy and self-indulgent and have an instant gratification problem. BUT, aren’t these all similar things that were said by the parents in every single generation before us? First there was that evil thing called Rock and Roll. Oh my! Then came Elvis and the Beetles and the whole world was going to hell in a hand basket. But, we all seem to have come through it just fine.

    Using the “kids gone wild” excuse is not acceptable to excuse spanking. I can only hope that my children, being one more generation removed from a spanking generation, will be able to refrain better than I’ve been able to.

    That all said, I think what has been done to this poor baby by the justice system is far worse. Being ripped away from her mama for an indefinite amount of time is far more damaging. The punishment is way too excessive for what her supposed “crime” was. If that ER report was not able to show the child was injured, then this woman was wrongfully prosecuted and she needs to appeal this decision with a REAL attorney.

  67. by baseball

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    @Noelle…
    I have 3 kids, 15 and twin 9 year olds…all three have received spankings (plural) at some point in their short little lives. all three still call to me when they are scared, hurt or sick. all 3 still scream for their dad when when they fall off bicycles or need something during baseball games. they are not scared of either of us and know when it all comes down to it…MOM and DAD will take care of them.

    i’m not foolish…i realize that not all children have this, but I resent the fact that I’m grouped into that category because of the discipline tactics I choose.

  68. by Amber Self

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    As a former schoolteacher, I cannot believe that someone could be fined for spanking their child. This judge needs to spend a week at any public school at the elementary level. Kids are spoiled, undisciplined and disrespectful. The Bible says, “Spare the rod and spoil the child.” That means discipline them so they will learn right from wrong. I don’t mean beat them or abuse them. Discipline is a necessary part of parenting.

  69. by momto4

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    AND people wonder WHY kids these day’s are out of control???? What ever happened to spare the rod spoil the child? I believe parents should be allowed to spank their child (not beat or abuse!) but a swat on the bottom when necessary. This should of never gotten this far, just craziness!!!

  70. by baseballmom

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    @lynn…if there was a “LIKE” button, i would click it on your response…well said….

  71. by Sonna

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    This just makes me so angry. If I were that mother, once I had my children back from “grandmother”, I would make sure they never saw her again!!! She has no legal rights to see them as they are her grandchildren and not her children!

  72. by Shonna

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    @Lynn – Amen, Sister! I dido your commments.

  73. by Lauren

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    First, I am not pro-spanking. I believe in talking and explaining to children. I condemn child abuse, I believe it’s one of the worst crimes. HOWEVER – we are talking about children. If grownups many times don’t do what’s best in spite of knowing right from wrong themselves, being talked to, etc. why do people think kids should do better?? They are learning. And sometimes they have a temper, or are stubborn, or just can’t understand your reasons (ever tried to make a child eat veggies saying “this is good for you and your health”? – and no, I don’t spank my child if he doesn’t eat his veggies). Sometimes you have little option to make your point across. We don’t have the full story (was there previous abuse, abuse to other children), but from what we get in this article, I believe Granny has an agenda and the judge is way out of line. If the child didn’t have bruises and was not injured I don’t understand why the judge felt he had to put the mom on probation.

  74. by Janine

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    I think the generalization that kids now a days are “bad” because they are not getting spanked is going a bit too far. In my opinion, from what I have seen working for both a private day care in an affluent community and also a free preschool program for children in poverty, is that kids are “bad” because parents no longer teach their children the way to properly behave in society. They are no longer teaching them respect, responsibility, morals, and generally raise them with a sense of entitlement. They spend too much money buying their children things instead of giving them what they are desperate for: love, attention, rules. Parents are afraid to be the bad guy and be consistent. Punishment and consequence are taboo. Kids are going to be kids and push the boundaries and disobey. It is the parent’s job to be the PARENT and make it known who is in charge: the adult, not the child.
    Whether if not you believe in spanking, as an early-childhood professional, I feel it is not appropriate, nor effective, the root problem is how the children got to be so “bad” they need to be spanked at all. Think about this:how

  75. by Janine

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    …accidentally posted, sorry!
    How is it that preschool teachers can completely turn around a group of children’s behaviors around? Because they have clear and consistent rules for the children that they are expected to follow and there are consequences for making choices that’d not follow those rules. These teachers aren’t allowed to spank. Yet, save children with severe issues that require professional help, all children end the year behaving better than at the beginning and usually the behavior is still worse at home.

  76. by Monica

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Bad kids are going to be bad because of what you teach them, as well as a number of genetic factos.

    My kid gets out of control, but I just give him something constructive to do and he’s fine. My parents only spanked me once and I went to college and am a respectable member of society. My brother was spanked more than I and has been in jail on more than one occasion. Maybe you pro-spankers need to:

    a)Calm down. Do you know why you feel the NEED to spank? Because YOU were spanked and are just ensuring that the cycle of abuse is perpetuated.

    b)Don’t make broad generalizations and do some research. Crime PERCENTAGES are down, but more people on earth mean more overall crime. There is a strong correlations with working parents and misbehavior.

    c)It is not what you do TO your child. It’s what you do WITH them.

    Get some statistics together. I want to see where it says that less spanking positively correlates with bad behavior. Do it. I fucking dare you.

  77. by Shiloh

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    WHAT!!!! It is not illegal to spank a child, but leaving a small red mark is considered injury!!!! The mark probably went away pretty quickly, if i was that mother that grandparent would never see that child again!!!! I spank my children because I will NOT have them grow into the monsters that some children are becoming! I was spanked as a child and i am grateful my parents did it! This judge should be ashamed of himself and those children should NOT have been ripped from their mother for this reason!!!!! And that grandparent should be ashamed as well!!!!!!!!

  78. by Concerned Dad

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    That Judge is a moron. These damn liberals run our country and do not know how to do it. This is unacceptable. There are people out there killing their kids and all they get is a slap on the wrist cause they plead insanity….The insane thing is our Government and Judicial System has failed us, You Sir. (Judge Moron) has failed us.

  79. by Susan Huston

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    The grandmother is the one that should be in court! A red mark on the butt Come on. That is just a sting. I whipped my four grown children with a paddle. And it hurt. They have grown to be good respectful adults. One even thanked me for raising her the way I did and I would say she got the most spankings. This judge should be removed from the bench…and the grandmother, she’d never come near me again or my children once I got them back BAD GRANDMOTHER!

  80. by Tara

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    spanking is a necessary disciplinary action! you are depriving a child of life lessons if you do not spank and discipline them.

  81. by Beckie

    On June 20, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    I believe in spanking. I was brought up being spanked and I am spanking my children. There is absolutely nothing wrong with spanking. Beating a child is completely different. I used to live in an apartment complex where ALL the kids there needed spanked (I’m not exaggerating). The teens there were, obviously, not punished what so ever and it started rubbing off on my children. It got to the point where I had to keep my children from playing with the other kids to keep them from being influenced by the bad habits of the other kids. My children know better but they still make decisions that call for a good, old fashioned spanking. It is NOT against the law and I will continue to spank my children (when it’s called for). Free country, my big butt!

  82. by Phil

    On June 20, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Spanking is lazy. Use your brains to raise your children.

    Works for us.

  83. by Melissa

    On June 20, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    No I’ve never spank my kids I’ve always putt them in for time out for a little while and to see my in-laws spankin them I get really mad like when my ex- father in law spank my oldest just for spilling water on his shirt now me as his mother I wouldn’t have spank him I would have just walked over there taken his dirty shirt off thrown it in the dirty close basket and gave him a clean one to put on and see NO BIG DEAL!!! and let him go back doing whatever he was doing such as playing that is!

  84. by Chloe

    On June 20, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    the bigger problem here is that there are a lot of whackos out there that legit BEAT their children until they are bleeding and then call it spanking. They ARE injuring their kids. I get it. I understand why spanking issues are hard to address. Don’t get me wrong-I am for spanking. But it’s when crazy (usually overly-religious) parents beat their children for not making their bed correctly, or for acting like normal children, that there is a problem. Then they claim that “God says it’s OK”. that’s just complete BS.

    OK and why did the grandmother take the child to the freaking hospital?? that’s uncalled for. it’s not her child, and i dont think it was within her rights.

  85. by LHH

    On June 20, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    Sounds to me like that judge needs a good, sound spanking!

  86. by Jon

    On June 20, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    What is this garbage? If my generation did not get spanked, it would have been bad. That is what happened with a lot of kids today, because you don’t spank them and teach them discipline, you get six-year-old with mouths like sailor, passive parents and destruction and fits at stores. Spankings made you grow up and listen. The grandmother should be in court for just being stupid and the judge is an idiot with his comment,
    “You don’t spank children today,” said Longoria, “in the old days, maybe we got spanked, but there was a different quarrel. You don’t spank children. You understand?” ….. what a lame statement…… Parents should be allowed to raise how they wish, some spank, some don’t as long as it is a normal spank and not a full on beating, why shoudl the courts be involved.

  87. by Kim

    On June 20, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    It’s none of the damn state’s business how a child is disciplined. However, if the child has bruises and welts, then yes CPS needs to step in. But from what I read in the article it was only a spanking. A child can fall down and get red marks! And the judge was out of line for what he said.

    There’s a huge difference between spanking and abuse! When you spank you do it only for certain things, and when you can control yourself;you tell them why they got spanked, talk it out with them if they want to afterwards, and be sure to give them a hug and a kiss and tell them you love them no matter what.

    This country is becoming crap!

  88. by Daniel

    On June 20, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    My sister does not spank her children, 2 year old boy and 5 year old daughter, and they act like little shits. She tries to discipline them with out spanking by using time outs mostly and other methods. Yet they act terrible and it takes her well past ten times telling them to do or not to do something. I saw a teacher say something about how they don’t have to spank them at school and they act good. Yeah my sister’s daughter acts good at school but terrible at home, so what you say about how they act at school is not a real good argument. I have seen the product of not spanking a child in my family and out with other people in public. Kids need structure and discipline so that they know you are the one in charge, not them. I can’t stand it when someone in public allows there kid to do what ever they want, and they know it, basically because there isn’t good place for timeout or what ever their method of non-physical punishment is which obviously doesn’t work. What different quarrel is this judge speaking of? If a kid is doing something they shouldn’t then they should be spanked, the message gets across in any language and generation; And not the wrong message either because they sure as hell won’t do it again. Society maybe changing but it always is but there is nothing between that judge’s generation and ours that made the kids more fragile or is going to make a child stupid or less confident if we spank them. People that have proper discipline usually lead a healthy life and have the right morals to pass on to their children. If you were so emotionally scarred as a child from being spanked then you probably were beat not “spanked” but a red mark that goes away and doesn’t leave a bruise is most definitely well deserved discipline. Oh and my sisters dog is a turd as well and guess what, she doesn’t spank him.. Just had to add that lol

  89. by KiKi

    On June 20, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    i believe spanking should end at a certain age, and that age should be determined by the parent as they know the maturity of their own children and are well beyond capable of making that choice. if i slap my leg it will be red, even if its a mild slap because that is what skin does, it responds to external stimuli. the fact that her daughters rear end was red was an internal response to an external stimuli. that does NOT mean that she any more forcefully slapped her three year old any harder than i would by slapping my own leg and it turning red. i am disappointed in the justice system, there are bigger problems than this and now she has to be in CPS system which CPS has always historically been huge bias bigots that go over the top and turn molehills into mountains. regulations need to be checked where CPS is concerned and they need to take a backseat and their power needs to be knocked way down. I am pleased to read so many of you disagree with this article and find it just as absurd as I do.

  90. by Stephanie

    On June 20, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    I think the main thing many people are overlooking is the fact that our rights as parents are slowly being taken from us. For those of you that don’t believe in spanking…don’t spank, but leave another parent’s rights to do so alone. Will people ever learn that the government is not “they”, but it is “us”? WE are the government and we are as a whole taking our own rights away because we are too afraid of what others think, too afraid to speak up because we may get punished. Kiss my butt America, I WILL spank my child; I WILL discipline MY child the way I see fit; I will NOT allow someone else to tell me how to raise my child. And of course parents that don’t spank think their children are not “spoiled brats”, who wants to believe that? Spanking is not the only form of discipline, however, it is an action/consequence form that gets a better point across.

  91. by KJG

    On June 20, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Every child needs a swat. Some kids need a spanking. No child deserves a beating.

  92. by Mike

    On June 20, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    I absolutely disagree with this Judge and almost any “politically correct” way of discipline for children today. Kids do not learn about consequences to bad decisions if there is not a punishment like spanking. I absolutely believe there is a line that can’t be crossed when it comes to punishment. Spanking is not slapping or beating our kids. Those are unacceptable. As for the comment about these kids will run our world someday…they already are running it. That is the problem.

  93. by Cathryn

    On June 20, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    This is absolutely ridiculous! Children need to be disciplined and there is nothing wrong with spanking! It is none of the states business how a parent chooses to discipline their children unless the child is being severely injured but this is a joke!

  94. by annajean

    On June 20, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    And we shouldn’t reprimand them(or snap train them)… send them to bed at a given time… demand that they do chores or homework… eat their vegetables…brush their teeth… well, actually, provide them with any kind of parenting. We should just let them grow up to be wild little heathens. Can I bring the out of control children to the judge’s house when they are having complete meltdown from lack of parenting?! Probably not,because then a person would be arrested for child neglect. STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!

    Get real!!!!

  95. by Beth

    On June 20, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    My opinion will obviously be unpopular based on what I’ve read here for the most part, but PEOPLE!! LET’S EVOLVE!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, I was occasionally spanked as a child, as were most kids in my generation, HOWEVER, research has found PLENTY of evidence that it is not an effective form of punishment. Yes, it’s effective at that moment, but every child I know who is spanked may be well-behaved and careful (out of fear) around their parents and then total monsters around others. Kids need a place where they can safely push boundaries and safely cross lines without fear of physical punishment. If they are not comfortable/confident enough to express themselves at home, I GUARANTEE you they are doing it elsewhere – school, friends houses, etc. I have a teenager and a 7 year old. Both are confident, happy, respectful people. My daughter is not an out of control teen and my son is a great student, friend, etc. They are comfortable coming to us with their issues (even if they have issues with us) so that we can talk about them. We don’t feel the need to turn them into submissive people who do not trust their own judgment because they are always afraid of the consequences. There are SUCH better ways to teach lessons than to basically show a child that since you are bigger, stronger, etc, then you are allowed to hurt them and do whatever you’d like to them. If a child runs into the street and your reaction is to spank him, what are you teaching him?? To fear your reaction to slipping up?? How about teaching him how dangerous cars can be and how difficult it is for cars to see children who dash out into the street. They are people with brains. They are capable of learning lessons and understanding right from wrong and good from bad without it being about fear of their parents. How sad!!!!!!!!!! And yes, I of course love my parents despite the few spankings I received. I will say, however, that I did plenty of “bad” things. I just made the conscious decision to not share those things with my parents. I was much more secretive than my kids are. Also I have struggled with self-esteem my entire adult life, as do MANY other adult women and men I know. Is it a result of being spanked?? Who knows. I just know that along with recycling, eating well, exercising, and the many many other things we’ve learned and evolved with over the past couple decades – I choose to learn and evolve and raise my kids as confident and self-assured as possible.
    And sorry folks – if you ever watch prison shows or even listen to their stories, 99.9% of these prisoners were abused, spanked, etc., and turned out to be aggressive, angry adults who committed some sort of crime against their fellow man. My son won’t even kill a bug because he respects the lives of every single living creature. The neighbor boy up the street (who is spanked) recently found a small snake and mutilated it….. for fun. I’ll take my kids over that any day, thank you!!
    As for this story – there is obviously a reason that these kids are not in the custody of their mother to begin with. I’m sure that’s the reason for the hefty sentence. Also, there is NO excuse for a 2 year old – a BABY – to have red marks on her bottom. How sad. I hope she learned a lesson. I would say the parenting classes are MUCH more important than the probation.

  96. by Aisha

    On June 20, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Makes me mad reading this! The grandmother should be the one scolded for interfering. She should no longer have access to the kids if the mother wants her kids to become obedient children.

  97. by shelly

    On June 20, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    i disagree with the judges statement we as parents need to disipline our children a spanking is not out of the question as long as it’s 1 swat on the but or be put in a corner for a time out but if we don’t do it while they are little they get so out of control by the time they hit pre-teen there is no control left an then people like to say what an unruly child what kind of parent are they quit letting the law take complete over our choices as parents talking won’t be the cure they will just ignore mom an dad an say what ever let us make the choice to how we disipline the child not the court system

  98. by duncan

    On June 20, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Dear Stupid Judge,

    I have 2 very well behaved children, at least that is what most people/parents like you tell me.
    I also love my children more than anything in the world and would never do anything to hurt them.

    Which is exactly why I spanked them.

    …and because of that, I know that neither my son or daughter will ever cross a street again without stopping and looking both ways.

    It is far better to learn that your actions have consequences from your parents, than from a Ford F150.

    Obviously we may not be getting the full story behind this incident, after all, it was written by a Journalist. Maybe this woman deserved everything and more than she got….but that has nothing to do with the reason that you are STUPID.

    I assume you have seen your fair share of the young undisciplined population of criminals that have been raised under the same rhetoric you are spouting.

    You either do not have children yourself and have no idea what you are saying, or…

    you do have children and will one day have the privilege of knowing they learned a lesson the hard way that you could have spared them from…

    Of course there is always the possibility that they turned out great because you did your job as a parent… but now your a politician so “we don’t spank”.

  99. by tara

    On June 20, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    every kid is different. you can’t say “spanking is good” or “spanking is bad”. beating IS wrong. hitting out of anger IS wrong. some kids need a little extra physical reminder, but not for just being normal kids, or messing up. OK and for whoever said this earlier-not spanking with your hand because you dont want your children to fear your touch-that’s bull. there aren’t loopholes in how a child thinks. if you hit them with an object they will be just as scared of you as if you hit them with your hand. jeez.

  100. by Brad

    On June 20, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    I wonder if she’d have locked the kids in a cage and called it incarceration whether that judge would have went more leniently. Probably not; that probably would have been called abuse too.

    One of my numerous quarrels with society these days is that there is not enough discipline allowed. This moron of a judge is basically trying to take away the only form of punishment left to parents. I wish I’d have been around to see a good ol’ fashioned flogging, but I am satisfied as heck when a parent finally breaks down and beats their brats behind.

    The root problem, of course, is the system. People have become too afraid of the system to properly punish their children. Well…the system be damned. It needs to help parents discipline out-of-control kids not restrict what parents can do. I do NOT condone the abuse of children, but there are times when a genuine beating is not only the appropriate punishment, it is appropriate as an educational tool as well.

  101. by Julie

    On June 20, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Spanking out of anger or frustration is wrong and easily can get out of control, but spanking to correct and teach is discipline, and I think, is acceptable.

  102. by Kendra

    On June 20, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Regardless of whether you believe in spanking or not, children need bondaries. They need to understand that there are consequences for their misbehavior, and those consequences need to be reinforced and consistient. Every child is different and will respond to different types of punishments. That is the job of the parent, to find out how best their child will respond to which type of discipline. Not every child needs to be spanked to learn the lesson, but some do. Ditto to all the parents who feel as though their rights are being revoked. How can the government tell you how to raise your child?? I am the parent. My son is my responsibility and it is my right and duty to raise, and raise him well to be a productive citizen. There’s not just one way of doing this. We’re all different and unique.

  103. by Amy

    On June 20, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    This judge is using his position to make his own laws! Spanking is not illegal and red marks are not injuries. This case should have been thrown out, but what worries me most is that this awful, unlawful ruling will probably not be overturned because the mother is more consumed with getting her children back than with the legal precedence this sets for the rest of us parents. She was within her rights under the law in how she disciplined her daughter, but didn’t fight it-probably because pleading guilty would get her children back faster. I am a mom. I’d come close to losing my mind if someone took my kids away. It’s just so obviously wrong of this judge and he might get away with it, and steal parental rights from all Texans. The government has no business in this case.

  104. by Michele

    On June 20, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Spanking is totally appropriate for a 2 year old child as long as it didn’t cause injury and isn’t done in a mean way. How can she be given probation if it’s not against the law? Seems the judge is taking a big liberty here.

  105. by Keldam

    On June 20, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    I do not believe this woman should have been put on probation. However, I also think there are more effective ways of disciplining a child. Hitting/spanking your child only teaches them that sometimes it’s OK to hit. Violence encourages more violence. You shouldn’t let your kids go without being disciplined, and they should be raised to be productive members of society. If you need to hit your kid to get them to behave or listen, you need to take a look at your parenting skills. Are you doing what is best for your child or what is easiest for you?

  106. by A

    On June 20, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    I think most people are missing the point. Whether or not you approve of spanking is not the issue. This is an article on a legal case in court. The LAW says that parents may discipline their children according to their own beliefs so long as they do not injure them. Red marks are not injuries. You can get red marks from sitting in the same position–that’s how the skin is.

    If everything reported in this article is correct, then the judge is guilty of legislating from the bench. Why should parents make the decisions about how to discipline their children? All children are different but who knows them better than anyone else? A legislator? A judge? Heck no! It’s the parents. They know them better than anyone else and have more of a vested interest in their lives. Some of you say that you discipline with spanks and others don’t. Well, that is your right under the law.

    Judge Longoria has circumvented this mother’s rights and this ruling should not be allowed to stand.

    Remeber the poem:
    “First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out –Because I was not a Socialist.
    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.”

    Parents out there, this should make us all very afraid.

  107. by Suzanne

    On June 20, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    I think we are all missing the point. It’s not really about if you are pro-spanking or not. This story is about whether or not the government should be allowed to get involved with said spanking. This story is pretty scant on details, such as; was the mother in trouble for other things too? Does she have a record of child abuse? If this is any kind of first offense or if what happened is really all that was said, then I don’t think the judicial system had any right to get involved. My husband is a social worker and you wouldn’t believe the horror stories he sees where there is little punishment. One has to admit, even if you are against spanking, it is a parent’s choice not Uncle Sam’s. I have a 6-month old and I’m not sure if we are going to spank or not. That being said, I also think it’s ok for your child to have a little healthy fear of a parent when necessary. Such as discovering you in the kitchen when he or she is sneaking home at 2 in the morning in high school. You’re dang right I feared my parents when I knew I was caught doing something wrong! That, however, doesn’t mean I didn’t turn to them when I needed them either! Also, just one quick note for anyone is going to think that I want my child to fear me all the time. You are an idiot and you didn’t read my comments right.

  108. by Nicole

    On June 21, 2011 at 4:15 am

    I was not spanked as a child. I turned out fine. No arrests, drug charges, not even a parking ticket. I will not spank my children either. And just because I spare the rod, doesn’t mean I hate my kids.

  109. by michelle

    On June 21, 2011 at 6:18 am

    As I’ve stated here, if you don’t disipline your kids, they will be out of control! Like the 5 yr. old across the street from me….screaming the F-word loud enough for the whole neighborhood to hear…or the other child I know, who throws a tantrum as soon as he doesn’t get his way, and when I sayy throw, I mean he grabs stuff in the house and throws it around! I spanked my kids, they are good kids and they understand why they got spanked. My son is 18 and my daughter is 12..of course I don’t spank them any more…but there is no need to now…I was spanked as a child, I totally understand why it was needed…I love my parents, they are my best friends, I never feared them for spanking me. My parents always said to me afterward, “do you understand why you got spanked?” if I didn’t understand they explained….you got to make sure the kid understands why…then they don’t do it again and they respect the spanking! the government can bite me…my children will not turn out to be the ignorant, rude, belligerent children I see out there….

  110. by Sarah

    On June 21, 2011 at 9:10 am

    I think the grandmother and the 214th District Court Judge, Jose Longoria, are in need of a good spanking.

  111. by tim

    On June 21, 2011 at 9:43 am

    The judge needs to be spanked!!!

  112. by Maryann

    On June 21, 2011 at 9:52 am

    Today people are to much in everyone elses business. I have 3 sons (19,5&4). I used to spank my eldest son, only when needed and he was ok (no bruises, red marks nothing), til one day he feel shortly after a spanking. The teacher called HRS on me; becaue he was asked how that happened an told them it happened after being spanked. I was told by the police that you CAN spank so long as you don’t leave a mark. I never lost my son, cause the investigation was found to be unfounded. But I never spoke loudly or or spanked him again. Now my child has been in and out of DJJ for attacking people, stealing and drugs. He feels that no adult can do anything and that he can do whatever he likes. All be cause I was to afraid to do anything. I have figured that time outs and giving bid rewards work for my younger two. They are learning that Mommy and Daddy won’t spank us (unless really needed…running in to the road). They know we are gonna spend a nice sunny day in bed, not at the pool. At this point it works. But to many people stick their noses where they shouldn’t. So to many people are becoming to scared to do anything like I once was. My family will never be the same; Because someone else thought they knew what they were doing. She thjought she was protecting my son…who is protecting all the people he has hurt. Now look at my son, who runs even from the cops.

  113. by Kayla

    On June 21, 2011 at 11:14 am

    This is horrifying. Everyone has a different opinion on how they would like to discipline and that should be left ALONE. The government is becoming more and more aggressive and controlling of families. And apparently we as the American public are OK with it. It is unacceptable for the judge to make such a blatant statement about spanking being morally wrong. What foundation is that based on? Simply his opinion. Leave American parents ALONE.

  114. by Angela

    On June 21, 2011 at 12:23 pm

  115. by Yocheved

    On June 21, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Have you ever tried to use reason and logic with a two year old who is in the midst of hysterics? Sometimes a short, sharp swat is what’s needed to help them snap out of it, refocus, and actually HEAR what you are trying to say to them. At such a young age, they can’t control their emotions and impulses, and if you can’t redirect them with words then sometimes you need a little physical intervention.

    For a slightly older child who is defiant or refusing to accept reason, consequences need to be made clear. For some kids, a time out is the worst thing in the world, but for others it’s an exercise in sneaking out of the corner and causing further aggravation. Some kids will be horribly upset if you take away the TV, others will just shrug and grab a book. Some kids will be corrected by spanking, some will just look at you like “is that all you got, old man?” (believe me, I’ve seen that look!)

    Bottom line, is that you have to know your kid’s temperement, maturity level and personality, and use the parenting tools that will work appropriately.

  116. by Tina

    On June 21, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Wasting the court, the judge, the lawyers involved over this spank, is what is criminal.

    There are hundreds of deadbeat parents hurting their children sexually, selling them into slavery, not feeding their children, neglecting them, and abusing them beyond any sort of thing related to spanking.

    Why are they not investigating them..? Searching out parents intending on physically spiritually, emotionally hurting their children or others..?

    I spank. The bible tells us to discipline with the rod. He has also given them a padded butt to handle the discipline. Consistency is the answer.

    I think in this case a disgruntled grandma found evidence of a possible chance to take on the last child. She wanted custody, she needed anything she could get to give her that.

    Unfortunatly, the child is the one who is going to pay the price for this. The child who will be hearing why she was taken from her mom because of being abused. She will then be out of her natural environment, her family unit. It’s the child that should concern everyone, not the fact that the mom got 5 years for spanking.

  117. by Jeremy

    On June 21, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    And it’s no wonder that kids these days so unruly and get into trouble, parents are too afraid to be just that, parents! Why be a parent and risk the law coming after you, just let society and the State raise the kids for you.

  118. by Carolina

    On June 21, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    I am SO glad my daughter was born before all of this ‘politically correct’ nonsense began. I HAD decided I would never spank her, cos MY parents took it WAY too far with me, BUT she went through the ‘terrible twos’ early. She was SO defiant it was unbelievable. Sometimes I would smack her butt, only SHE had on a thick diaper, and it really DID hurt me more than it did her! In frustration, I called a child psychologist. He said she was too young to profit from what he offered, but he told me to buy a book called ‘Dare to Discipline’ by James Dobson. I rushed out and bought it immediately. In it he stresses the importance of consistency. Meaning that if you make rules you must follow through each time your child breaks those rules, swiftly and surely. NO counting to ten. No laughing it off one time and punishing the next for the same infraction. Setting limits. ALSO (this part is ‘missing’ in the newer editions) he advised if your child was still in diapers that you buy yourself a wooden spoon, preferably a flat one with a hole in the middle, (used for pasta I think). Anyway, if the child refuses to obey, you would smack him/her ‘smartly’ on the bottom (ONLY). It didn’t really cause pain, but the noise would get their attention, plus you didn’t hurt your own hand!) It took less than a month, I swear, before my daughter was ‘toeing the line’ every time. I made sure she knew that spoon was in my bag before we left home. (Part of Dr. Dobson’s advice) I NEVER…and I SWEAR to this…had to use it after that first month. (I DID still give her a ‘three count’ to obey, but NOT ONE, TWO, TWO and a HALF, TWO and three quarters…etc. Just one, two, three, with about a second between each count. BTW, this book, in it’s modern incarnation, is available as a free download several places on the web. I suggested it to all of my friends back in the day, and even WITHOUT the ‘spoon trick’ it’s still a valuable resource. (Although I DO tell people about the spoon!) If only more people would follow this advice, spanking would not really be needed. Only, most parents these days are just too lazy to follow it all. And, I agree…bratty kids and rotten…even dangerous…teens are the norm today. It’s so disheartening. (Oh, my daughter now uses my old, dogeared copy of the book. My grandkids are as great as she was!)

  119. by Carolina

    On June 21, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    BTW…I forgot to mention that when I would use my bare hand to spank her butt, she would put her little hands on her little hips and just give me a ‘dirty look’. She didn’t cry. The spoon, on the other hand, DID get her attention. She STILL didn’t cry, but you KNEW she was listening after that! It made a nice ‘thwack’ sound on the diaper and rubber pants. It never, however, left a mark. (You don’t ‘beat’ them, one smack on the butt is IT!) It also did NOT ‘break her spirit’. She simply focused her spirit in other places…such as gymnastics, and later on school, debate, diving team, etc. I imagine a wooden spoon would be considered a ‘weapon’ these days. But, between you, me and the fencepost, it is one of the most effective tools you can use for a diapered toddler. If you are a parent, I urge you to read this book. (And, I am NOT affiliated in any way with the author. Did I mention you can now get it for FREE?)

  120. by Melanie

    On June 21, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    I used to have to go out and pick out my own switch so my dad could switch my bottom…I absolutely believe in spanking! Becuase I never wanted to get switched or spanked, I tended to stay away from things that I could do to get in trouble…dah!

  121. by Melanie

    On June 21, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    Oh yea and my mom would use the wooden spoon on my butt…ouch! But again, it kept me out of trouble and from smarting off to my parents!

  122. by Beth

    On June 21, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    That’s so stupid. I was spanked as a child and it did leave red marks but they go away that same day. Has spanking become illegal in Texas?

  123. by Rachael

    On June 21, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    I agree with most people on here saying that children now days think they can get away with anything because parents cant smack their kids. then when they get out into the “real” world they break the rules and then they are faced with jail as their first taste of real discipline. No wonder kids have gone wild and think the world owes them.

  124. by Melonie

    On June 21, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    Wow, hard to believe so many “parents” still believe in spanking. Enough is enough. The studies are conclusive… kids you are spanked have lower i.q.’s, tend more toward violence, and generally don’t feel a safe/healthy amount of respect for their bodies from the people who are supposed to protect them the most… their parents. Would you hit your spouse? Your mom? Then why your child? He/she is even more fragile and what you’re telling them, in no uncertain terms, is violence is good when someone upsets you. Violence works. Period. PLEASE stop being lazy. Read the books that have been published by the experts. Get off your high-horses “I know best”, no, if you spank, obviously, you don’t.

  125. by wm

    On June 21, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Why do you think we were made with so much padding in the butt???

  126. by Hannah

    On June 21, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    I for one believe this is a mismanagement of government time and money. Also I’ll reiterate what I saw another parent mention -when did the government turn into the parents of our children- or have more say in how we discipline them if we are not being “violent” with them and abusing them??

  127. by tb838

    On June 22, 2011 at 12:38 am

    I am an elementary teacher and I believe not enough parents are laying down the law. A well placed, well deserved “attention getter” can be appropriate, especially to deter kids from dangerous situations.

  128. by tb838

    On June 22, 2011 at 1:07 am

    Also, I am sick of the argument that spanking begets violence. Don’t site a study. Most of the data from studies come from boarderline abusive families. No one believes that spankings should be used as a main form of punishment. If people choose to site statistics, lets talk. Baby Boomers are a hard-working, successful generation who were spanked. Gen X recieved less spankings and it shows. Look at our society. Anything goes. Generation Y is portrayed as lazy and self-center. They grew up without spankings. Today’s kids are a MESS. But, I will agree that spanking is not the first resort. Parents today are permissive and do not discipline their kids. I think no matter the method, be consistent and discipline with love. Remember, it is about growing decent human beings. Sorry for the rant. It’s just that there are so many factors that go into studies and often the results of the study are announced without dicussing the many variables. For example, that many of the parents live in communites or situations that perpetuate violence, let their children watch violent television and movies, and the children have witnessed their parents behave aggressively toward others. That often in these families, education in not a priority and the kids are not read to. That their parents have quick tempers and the kids are afraid of the unpredictable nature of their parents, and spanking is the main form of discipline and done out of anger. I completely agree that under those circumstances a child will have a lower IQ and hit when their angry because that is what they are being taught.

    The study was not conducted with information gathered from people who spank rarely and to drive home the severity of an extremely dangerous situation. And…What is considered a spanking? How many hits? How hard? I consider a spanking ONE swat on a clothed bottom with a hand when the parent is calm. “The first swat is for the child. Any subsequent swats are for the parent.

  129. by IncredibleMouse

    On June 22, 2011 at 6:54 am

    This is an April fools day joke that somehow got published in June? Right? If not, that Judge needs a serious spanking.

  130. by Annsilina Moore

    On June 22, 2011 at 7:24 am

    My opinion is: It worked on me, and I turned out pretty good. The kids today try to tell the parents what they can and cant do because of crap like this. Take a look at the kids that dont get their butt wore out – where are they and what are they doing… JUVENILE DELINQUENTS – STEALING, LYING, SNEAKING – and they tell the parents – If you spank me I will call child protective services…. WELL IF THEY HAD BEEN “SPANKED” IN THE FIRST PLACE – NONE OF THE BS WOULD BE HAPPENING, CUZ THEY WOULD KNOW THAT IF THEY DID SOME DUMB SHIT LIKE THAT – THEIR ASS WAS TOAST… This world is going to hell in the handbasket – Need to revert back to “THE OLD DAYS” seemed to work better!!!

  131. by Tegan S

    On June 22, 2011 at 9:24 am

    This is outrageous! The law should spend more time finding the mothers who are seriously neglecting and abusing their children instead of punishing to mothers who are taking an active role in trying to raise children the best they can. My husband and I are still undecided about what extent we believe our children will be spanked, but it’s our business and ours alone. So far we know for a fact spanking is important when our daughter crosses the line with things that can be a danger to her. We smack her hand (our two fingers across the top of her hand) when she tries to eat dog food, play with electrical cords or trying to put her fingers into the printer. Behavior issues though, so far anyway, seems to do better with time outs and face to face CALM talks. Smacking a child who’s already acting out usually makes them angrier, but a quick painful consequence when doing something that’s a danger to themselves gets their attention quickly and lets them know that it is NEVER allowed.

  132. by Roxane l Nichelson

    On June 22, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    i spank all three of my children, always have and always will, i try not to do it when im mad, and i have certain licks for certain things….guess i just have to catch a case!!!

  133. by Travelgirl

    On June 22, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    First, No judge has the right to tell parents that they cannot spank their children. Or that in this generation people do not spank their children. It is not Illegal. His job is to make rulings based on LAW not PERSONAL OPINION!
    Proper spanking from a loving parent who is IN CONTROL of their emotions & actions IS NOT the same thing as Abusing, Beating or Disrespecting your child. A single swap on the bottom to a child who is being defiant is not inflicting violence on a child. A parent should not be punishing out of anger, frustration or irritation.
    Loving correction, setting boundaries & teaching responsibility & respect for self & others is just as crucial to their emotional development as love, affection, nurturing & encouragement. Each child is different; some will never need to be spanked, some will. It is a personal matter for families to decide. Personally, I prefer not to spank & I only use it when absolutely necessary; child is putting themselves in danger or being defiant & is of the age to understand link between their choices & consequences. 2 years old is probably too young: Can you say they understand the consequences of their choices at 2? Re-direct your 2 yr old & supervise closely so they don’t hurt themselves.
    That being said, pay close attention to the article. This woman had ALREADY LOST CUSTODY of her children. None of us knows why. She was obviously ruled as unfit for one reason or another. Perhaps one of the conditions for having visitation with her children was NO PHYSICAL DISCIPLINE??? A proper swat on the bottom should not leave a red mark hours later after she returned her child to the grandmother. Use your critical thinking skills folks…

  134. by Roxanna

    On June 22, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    That judge is full of crap and EXTREMELY wrong. Discipline in the form of spanking is acceptable, is right and is something that never changes. That’s why children of all ages are out of control and our country is so messed up. Because of the lack of stern discipline. I love my children, DEARLY, whole-heartedly and would die for them, and because I love them I spank them. Shame on him. She should appeal.

  135. by Karen B. Jones

    On June 22, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    This is wrong. Spanking is not illegal. It is an effective discipline technique. I spank my daughters.

  136. by tracy herrera

    On June 22, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    i spank…. my kids open handed in public.. no one says a thing. it is not against the law. it is a one,two,three and swat.This is advise from my doc. if you go beyond three count it is abuse these are his words. i have good kids and they love me very much. i have raised a 21 year old and now am raising a 4 and 6 years old. what ever went on in that court room was more than just a spanking. an open hand spank is not against the law. if you ask any school or pediatrician they will tell you the same.

  137. by SB

    On June 22, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Okay everyone – since when did physically hitting your child on the bottom become the only form of ‘dicipline’ that sets kids straight. I bet you a majority of the little ‘brats’ juvienille delinquints etc. that you refer to have nothing to do with not being spanked as a child but more come from single parent broken families, have faced physical and or sexual abuse growing up, and an unstructured home environment. You can be a strict diciplinarian without hitting or spanking your child – it just takes a little more work and a little more self control to do it. To all those that say they were spanked and it worked on them…did it really? How did it make you feel as a child to have your parent hit you. I was spanked and I remember feeling outraged that my parents felt they could hit me just because they were bigger than me- that I was their child, did I not have basic decent human rights? Or that only comes when your an adult? Because we all know as adults its not okay to go around swatting eachother when we don’t follow somebody elses directions. Spanking is just a lazy fear driven form of dicipline for people that don’t have the patients to reinforce and correct behavior by setting and inforcing boundaries and limits without resorting to inflicting pain and fear into their children. PLEASE People!! Get a grip!!!

  138. by Vivian

    On June 22, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    I agree with travelgirl. There is more to this story that we are not seeing. Did the grandmother have custody before the spanking event or did the grandmother get custody while the mother is on probation? Why did the grandmother take the child to the ER? Medical professionals are required to report suspected child abuse. Obviously the child’s injuries (hours after the spanking) were serious enough to report.

    Spanking a child out of anger or frustration is abuse. Spanking a child so severely that you cause red marks that last for hours is abuse.

  139. by PS

    On June 22, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    This is a load of crap! She did not abuse her child by spanking them. Come on…what is this world coming to? I agree that spanking can get out of hand but just b/c there were red marks doesn’t mean abuse.

  140. by Mom of 8

    On June 22, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    I think this is outrageous!!! The courts make us afraid to be a parent. I have 8 kids and they get spankings! I also teach them wrong from right and when they choose to do wrong they know the punishment. We can’t discipline our kids and that is why its not safe in this world. When I was 9 I rode my bike all over our neighbourhood. I wouldn’t ever let my kids do this in this day and time! I was a foster parent for many years and I saw real child abuse! And none of them got any probation or jail time. Had one kid that cursed her mom, she got spanked and CPS removed her from the home. Long story short this kid bounced from home to home disrespecting everyone until she turned 18 and is now on drugs and unable to hold a job due to her attitude. I strongly believe if she was left with her mom she would have a better life today! Spend our tax dollars on real criminals and leave parenting to us!!!!

  141. by JS

    On June 22, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Studies show……HAHA…..Don’t make me laugh….. Did you know that 83% of statistics are made up on the spot? http://www.thebereancall.org/node/8045 Ok and if studies show that these kids have lower IQ’s, then explain to me why 3 out of 5 of my children are operating above grade level. Explain why my other children test at grade level, because these kids are growing up in the same environment. Oh and if my giving my children a quick swat is lazy then explain how such a lazy person has so many jobs as I do. Let’s see I am a housekeeper, cook, computer operator, laundry machine operator, janitor, facilities manager, van driver, chief executive officer, psychologist, multi-grade teacher, wife, taxi driver, an accountant, personal assistant, secretary, and the list could go on. I vaguely remember several comment here say I, and others like me, are lazy people. I too love Dobson’s book and yes I also agree that after the first couple of weeks the child rarely pushes beyond the consistent count of three and since my youngest is 8, I cannot remember the last time I used a spanking in my house, but my kids know that we will remain consistent. As for this woman and this judge the story does not provide any background information so we do not have any way of knowing if the judge is going overboard or if the woman has a past so probably best to reserve judgment.

  142. by Rachel

    On June 22, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    I think there is a lot more that is going on that isn’t in this story. Growing up, I was never really spanked hard. I also have a different perspective, being a teacher. I have had children afraid to show their parents bad grades because they will get spanked (a whooping). I have had a girl tell me that she was spanked because she spilled a cup of juice. While spanking may be one discipline measure, it seems that some people use it even when other discipline measures make more sense. I see kids freak out and shut down when they make mistakes because they are used to getting severely punished. A punishment should logically fit a crime and while spanking may logically fit some bad actions, there plenty of things that children do that could be disciplined just as well, if not better, with a more fitting punishment. And, yes, I work with this kids that become the juvenile delinquents and I will have to tell you that one of there biggest issues isn’t knowing what’s right and wrong, they know that. They have issues dealing with their emotions in healthy ways because they don’t see adults around them dealing with their emotions well. When they see adults deal with their anger and frustrations through yelling and hitting, that is what they do. When they start to see adults deal with bad behavior in a calm manner, they start to anticipate that calm and are more able to calm themselves down which stops the bad behavior before it even begins. This isn’t just theory, these are things that I have observed with my students. If I can do it only seeing them during the school day, think how much more effective it could be if parents did it from the start, when they are with their children all the time.

  143. by J.Ma

    On June 22, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    I think it’s completely wrong to spank a child. There are many others ways to discipline a child without having to resort to physical violence (Yes, hitting a child no matter how light is physical violence). When I was young, both my brother and I were spanked and it definitely hurt and/or caused us to be fearful. No child should have to be fearful of their parent hitting them. Parents can have too many emotions and go too far with the spanking. All of you who say that children nowadays are spoiled/brats, etc.. because they’re not being spanked are wrong. Children are brats because they are not disciplined at all. Parents have become too overprotective of their kids and give them everything they want without teaching them responsibility. That’s where the problem lies. Spanking is a poor excuse for discipline, besides studies show reinforcement whether positive or negative is much more effective than punishment.

  144. by jill

    On June 22, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    “L” the bible is not a fairy tale(: everyone has a different approach at raising kids i would never hit my babies but a tap on the butt never “hurts”

  145. by Megan

    On June 22, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    I understand that because most of us who are parents today were raised with spanking, that we feel things like this are ridiculous, however, it is illegal for me to hit a grown man, why is it ok for me to hit a defenseless child? It’s not. You can’t fight fire with fire. Hitting a person to teach them what they have done is wrong is unacceptable. People say that they have been beaten and spanked and they are better off for it, FALSE statement. Who are you to say that if your parents didnt repremend you without physical punishment that you wouldnt be the same person you are today? Or maybe better?

    Bottom line: If its not ok for me to walk up to a grown man and hit him for doing something wrong, it’s def not ok for me to walk up to a defenseless child a fourth of my size and hit them for doing something wrong.

  146. by think twice

    On June 23, 2011 at 6:00 am

    Some things are wonderful about our parents generation. I was spanked by my mother and to this day, I associate her with weakness for having to resort to physical force to discipline her child. My father on the other hand never hit me and I adore him for having patience enough to get to the root of the problem and fix it, nonviolently. yes, it is time consuming and tries your patience, but that is what a parent should be. Regardless of whether it is legal or not, spanking is weak and yes after my mother continually hit me, I tried to hit her after one of her spankings. Violence begats violence, period. Unstress your lives so you have the time to properly RAISE children, not break them into submission so they fit in to the very society we complain so much about. Just take a minute, breathe and think about it. Makes a little sense doesn’t it.

  147. by Dorothy

    On June 23, 2011 at 8:29 am

    It is a sorry day when some high-minded judge can pass down a sentence on something that is not against the law, since, as stated, there was no physical injury done to the child. I am sure that the only “injury” was to the child’s feelings, not the body. How did this judge get away with this? I also spanked my children…they are now grown men, and FINE today. So what is next? Getting angry at your children in any way being actionable? People of Corpus Cristi, remember this at the polls!!!!

  148. by Jacqueline

    On June 23, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    What the hell is wrong with that judge..he looks old enought im sure his daddy made him get a switch from a tree to get his butt beat. thats why teenagers are the way they are today..disrespectful..till this day my kids curse at me ill give them bridgework and not the kind you drive over either..i was spanked and i grew up just fine.

  149. by Julia

    On June 23, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Its time, Texas, to take back our Country. We cannot let this continue. Count me in!!!!

  150. by Allan

    On June 23, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    I believe there are times when spanking is about the only way to get a child’s attention. If there were more recent spankings, maybe we wouldn’t have so many juvenile delinquents and criminals! Our prisons are full! Remember the old saying “Spare the rod and spoil the Child”. Notice that did not recommend a hand only!

  151. by Eddie

    On June 23, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    A word for the judge…..”KISS MY ASS YOU ROBED DIPSHIT” ! Now I feel much better. First of all I don’t have any kids but the way I figure it if the Pope can talk about birth control I can talk about kids. Secondly. the judge nor anybody else will tell me how to raise something that I produced from my loins. It ain’t gonna happen. Thirdly, God instructs us to spank children when they need it..”Spare the rod and spoil the child”. Now when the judge decides that he can give advice to God I’ll listen until then..ppppsssstttt !

  152. by Patty

    On June 23, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    This is so ridiculous! I was spanked growing up and I repected my parents. Kids these days have no respect. I would never have thought to press charges against my mom or dad for a spanking. This is just stupid. Kids need to learn respect and the difference between right and wrong. Kids rights are really getting out of hand. This world is in serious trouble.

  153. by A

    On June 24, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    There is nothing wrong with spanking a child. Don’t abuse your child…. But every child needs discipline when doing wrong.

  154. by Anonymous

    On June 24, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    There is a reason that the current generation is entitled, selfish, lazy and demanding — we taught them how when we began treating them as princes and princess who were never allowed to fail or have their feelings hurt in any way. You reap what you sow, folks, and the kids who are coming out of college need a serious head check.

  155. by Anon

    On June 24, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    I was beaten as a child, and won’t spank my kids. However, I don’t necessarily have a problem with others doing it ASSUMING they are doing in the CORRECT way with the CORRECT attitude. I don’t know if this mother took things too far or not, but what really bothered me is that this judge has the nerve to say that spanking is not allowed. Uh, yes it is. It is not illegal unless it turns into a beating. A pat on the behind for running into traffic is NOT wrong and certainly not prohibited. He needs to be investigated, in my opinion. Those comments were outlandish and COMPLETELY uncalled for!!!

  156. by Mandy

    On June 24, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    Who does that Judge think he is? I can’t believe he is admonishing that mother on her GOD-GIVEN right to rear her child. Not to mention her AMERICAN right to do it in our FREE society! I wonder if his constituents realize he is judging based on what “society thinks” and not on what the LAW DICTATES. Boo – vote this joker out come election day.

  157. by Sarah

    On June 24, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    I was spanked as a child, and as soon as my parents stopped spanking me I went crazy, like pregnant at the age of 12 hanging out at night drinking smoking type crazy, as soon as i started getting spanked again I got in check and am now a sunday school teacher at my church and about to get married drug and alochol free. to me spanking is a good thing, I met a lady that never spanked her child and in the store she told him to stay close to her the boy said…and i quote “Shut the hell up you F!#%$ing stupid B!#*ch” kicked her in her leg and ran off… the judge is worng in this one, as long as your child is not injured to the point of bruising or broken bone BRING ON THE BUTT WHOOPING.

  158. by the other sarah

    On June 24, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    After reading all these comments, this is all I have to add.
    1. a parent has a right to dicipline there children, is there a line that needs not to be crossed yes. you shouldnt beat your child to the point blood is shed bones are fractured and bruises are left,
    2.I agree there are other ways of punishing children for doing wrong, see what way works for you, DOnt judge other parents for doing it differently, unless there child is clearly being abused. Children are never to young to learn right from wrong, as my friend Sarah said when she saw that boy in the store,(since I know her personaly and remember when she told me that story) I believe she told me the boy looked about only 3 years old, also i know an 18 month girl that slaps her sisters and mother and they just say “oh how cute” and “she’ll grow out of it” little kids slapping people is never good unless there being kiddnapped and there trying to get away. America has bigger problems, for Christs sake were in a resession. Children are being killed, Raped and molested, commiting suiside, starving, ending up in prison, almost killing other kids,A little girl that lived down the street was froced by her moms boyfriend at the age of 5 to peform oral sex on men and sell drugs cuz no one would look at a 5 year old giving a man a backpack full of plastic bags as suspicious. and a babys crib with three new born babys being used as a gun case. I’ve seen the ugly side of things.We got bigger problems to deal with, someone loved there child enough to punish them for wrong so later on they would know not to do that thing anymore became a crime Then shoot, let me not have anymore kids and spare the world for the downfall that is at hand.

  159. by ivonne

    On June 24, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    im sorry but i dont remember there being a giant public meeting on how to parent or dicipline your own children.. i mean i can understant if it wasnt the mother but because it was its ok. personaly i got smacked till i was fifteen and a new mom i say let there be spankings especially if you talk back or curse at me

  160. by Renata

    On June 25, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    I just got one word to say “RIDICULOUS”.

  161. by Shelby

    On June 25, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Research shows that spanking children (which is a form of “punishment” and NOT discipline) only procudes results of effectiveness SHORT-TERM and actually has negative long-term results.

    http://web.ebscohost.com.ezproxy1.lib.asu.edu/ehost/detail?sid=255b5d4f-455a-406f-8bab-24e87809ed06%40sessionmgr12&vid=1&hid=12&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWhvc3QtbGl2ZQ%3d%3d#db=ulh&AN=49743828

    Read for yourself. Also, I would like to point out that we do not know the context in which the mother was spanking her child… how many times she spankd her (within that one instance, and with each instance), we do not know the severity of the “red marks”– they could have been welts, we do not know to what degree those marks left a lasting impression on the child– maybe it hurt to sit, etc. Just because you were spanked and turned out OK, does not making spanking children OK…. that’s called generalization, and without scientific research to back up those generalizations, they are not factually evident.

    Positive Discipline on the other hand does not use physical punishment or verbal condemnation and has positive long-time effects. http://www.positivediscipline.com/

  162. by Elizabeth

    On June 25, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Is it me or is the government getting a bit power hungry? They tell us what not to feed our kids, how we should discipline our kids,what toys and games our kids should play with, and what vaccines our kids should have… I’m a new mom and tired of their scare tactics. I always have a fear in the back of my head that I’m going to do something wrong (like spank her when she gets older) and lose my baby.

  163. by Terry

    On June 26, 2011 at 1:08 am

    I was abused as a child physically with marks on my body to prove it. That began 51yrs. ago. I still believe in biblical correction of a child. The scriptural argument and the horrible effects on society that a lack of PROPER correction causes should be enough to rest this case. However our nation has fallen away drastically from bedrock principles that made it great and here is a result of that. The judge took an oath to be impartial and to be guided by the written laws not opinions in decision making. He should be investigated now! This lady has a case for appeal!

  164. by HEATHER

    On June 26, 2011 at 1:48 am

    WTF!!!! I AM A MOTHER OF 6 KIDS AND EXPECTING MY 7TH. I BELIEVE IN DISCIPLINE AND SPANKING ( NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH BEATING!) A SWIFT SMACK ON THE REAR OR HAND IS PERFECTLY FINE AND AT TIMES NECESSARY! I THINK THE LAWS HAVE ALL CHANGED FOR THE WORST! THIS MOTHER SHOULDN’T BE PUNISHED FOR SIMPLY TEACHING HER CHILD DISCIPLINE! IF EVERY PARENT FACED JAIL TIME OR PROBATION FOR SMACKING THEIR KIDS WE WOULD HAVE MORE PARENTS (INCLUDING AUTHORITY FIGURES) BEHIND BARS THAN ACTUAL CRIMINALS!!!!!!

  165. by Grandma2two

    On June 26, 2011 at 8:40 am

    Seriously?! What is this world coming to? I was spanked as a child, as were my parents. And to this day if my granddaughter does something she knows is wrong, and if it’s something she keeps doing after several times of telling her no, she gets a “tap” on her bottom, mind you, it hurts her feelings more then anything, considering her bottom is padded! What I would like to know is how was this judge brought up, did he get spanked or what about his children if he has any, did he spank them??

  166. by Momoftwo

    On June 27, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    I’m in shock after reading this article! I live in Texas, and I am an extremely loving mother. My kids are joyful, highly intelligent (to the point where people comment on it all the time), and very confident. We have a very close, loving relationship and I do spank. Actually, my 4 year old doesn’t really need to be spanked anymore, because she has learned that if I threaten to spank, I will follow through, and she now chooses to stop misbehaving before I have to spank her. I was spanked and I have a Master’s Degree and plenty of self confidence. One of my professors used to always say, “Research proves that breathing leads to death, because 100% of breathers will eventually die.” People need to use common sense and think for themselves and stop parroting researchers as if they were Gods! Research is proven wrong all the time. It’s all a load of politically correct crap that is destroying our society! Thank God there are so many of you out there who agree!

  167. by Mom'o'one

    On June 27, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    I was spanked as a child as were my parents, nothing bad came of it. As long as the child has NOT been hit in the head or by an object other than the hand, I see no problem here. Also, most of the time I give my child a verbal warning (or three or four) prior to the spankning that his chosen action is not desired. If he continues to disobey he get a quick spank and it gets his attention quick. If it gets to that point he knows I am serious about what I am saying. After he has had a chance to get over his inital shock of it, we sit down and talk about what choices he made to lead to that particluar consquence. I do not think spanking is wrong, but it should not be ones first repsonse to every naughty action a child does. Communication is key for them to learn why they got a spanken and why what they were doing was wrong.

  168. by Nancy Karasch

    On June 28, 2011 at 10:12 am

    And they wonder why kids have no respect for authority!
    This is a joke, right?

  169. by Hilda Garcia

    On June 28, 2011 at 10:42 am

    I think spanking is wrong, I have done it a couple of times to my 4 year old but I feel horrible afterwards and not only is it ineffective but it leaves bad feelings on both sides the parent and the child. I haven’t spanked him in a few months, I am trying the talking approach as well as taking away something he likes as a punishment when he doesn’t listen. I was spanked as a child (well actually hit with a belt) and it was horrible, my legs were bruised with belt marks, sometimes I couldn’t wear shorts. I have never hit my child with a belt nor will I ever do it. I may spank him but I am really tryning to control myself. It really is not effective and you only make things worse. I am also voluntarily taking a parenting class to see what else I can do to be a better parent.
    In regards to this sentencing, I think it’s harsh, unless the child was very hurt, which they don’t elaborate on the extent of the bruises.

  170. by Dr.PsycMomOf5

    On June 28, 2011 at 11:00 am

    I think this is absolutely ridiculous! There is a difference in beating and spanking. Children these days are horrible from lack of dicipline because parents are scared to dicipline. I have 5 kids and will admit that I have spanked everyone of them. With spanking its not just about the swat on the hiney, you have to TALK with the child as well, help them under stand “you did this and it was wrong, i am not spanking you because i am upset with you, its because you did wrong…” My kids are all very happy, healthy, RESPECTFUL individuals. I was spanked as a child and I wouldnt have it any other way. Parents should not have to be scared to dicipline their children!

  171. by Eve

    On June 28, 2011 at 11:24 am

    I think she needs to appeal this decision and take it to Supreme Court if need be. The State of Texas is out of control with CPS and court decisions like this.

    This decision will set a precedence in the State of Texas, unless overturned. Anyone now can have their children taken away by CPS and convicted of child abuse for open-handed spanking/disciplining a child that doesn’t even bruise or could be considered beating.

    Every parent in Texas needs to help this woman fight this court decision all the way to the top or else thousands risk a judgement against them and/or CPS taking their children away.

    Are there not enough children – actually abused children – already in the system?

    And shame on grandma for not consulting with the mother first over “red marks” – unless they were bloody and bleeding red marks, but that’s not what I saw from the article.

  172. by Bianca

    On June 28, 2011 at 11:46 am

    I am speechless! The land of the free has once more denied itself… It’s obvious that the grandmother simply wanted to keep full custody of the child and the judge made it easy for her. What a shame! I was always glad when my mom chose the spank instead of me being grounded or sent to my room. I think ignoring your child as punishment is cruel and lasts too long for a child, but a simple spank on the butt, an explanation why you did it and a kiss to make up with each other shows more care.
    Well, but maybe there is another side too and there is a reason why all her children are living with the grandmother… And now since the mother is fighting to get them back, grammy is searching for new reasons why the mom can’t have them anymore.
    But anyway, the 5 years are way too hard (and the 50 Bucks fine are a joke, right???) …

  173. by Sami

    On June 28, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Has anyone realized that our generation SUCKS? The teenagers (and even the littler kids!) Are AWFUL! I understand there were uncaring jerk-children in previous generations, but they were smacked upside the head promptly, I’m sure. I won’t apologize for having awful children. If they misbehave badly enough: spanking. Guess what, I’ve never had a complaint from caregivers, friends’ parents, or relatives. They’re not scared of me either, we still have story time, snuggle, play, and do many other things together that we enjoy.

    Granted, I think some people should not be able to breed, and THOSE are the ones who should be scolded for spanking their kids. Maybe this mother should have thought twice about swatting the TWO year old (they hardly have any self control!), but maybe a fair swat on the hand and a “no,” would’ve been fine.

    I’m really glad our judicial system is wasting their time and funds for crap like this when there are kidnappings and murders left unattended. (not).

  174. by Kayla

    On June 28, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    First let me say that I have read most of the above posts and find it completely disrespectful to swear and criticize other people’s religious beliefs and parenting choices. Let us all take a moment before we hit “submit” to see if our comments best reflect us as a person.
    This woman should not have received any probation or fine for her action, let alone being chastised by the judge in court. She should have been ordered to attend parenting classes and been granted custody of her children with an agent checking in on whatever schedule they felt necessary. This is an instance where the judge used this case to prove HIS point and did not provide an unbiased ruling based on the law. He should be disaplined and it should result in a mistrial or all charges dropped.

  175. by dcsusie

    On June 28, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    All of you spanking enthusiasts should understand what ‘spanking’ means in the state of Texas. My husband grew up there in the 1950′s, and I found out, unfortunately, after we were married, that he had been ‘disciplined’ by having points assigned to each thing he did ‘wrong’ during the week (i.e., anything that interfered with his father sitting on his ass and reading the paper or playing dominoes). Then on the weekend, he was given one lash with a belt for each point. He was also paddled with a board at school. Eventually, this all succeded in ‘breaking’ him and he became a ‘pleaser’ – most people think he is a great guy, but they do no realize he is in fact an emotional cripple who is unable to make a decision or accept responsibility. Believe me, spanking is not the answer to behaviour problems. My observation, for what it’s worth, is that a lot of ‘behavior problems’ today stem from a lack of true parental attention (I’m not talking about frantic weekends spent ferrying you kids from one activity to another so you can brag about all the things they do). After I made it clear to my husband that we were NOT going to spank our kids, we were able to cooperate in building a family centered lifestyle which centered on respect, love, care, and education for our kids (we were not pushovers, we knew how to set limits – but its a lot more work to enforces them with attention, education, and love than it is by swatting them.) Thankfully, our kids are all emotionally healthy, independent, successful, and loving adults, spared from the emotional pain that my husband’s parents inflicted on him because they were too lazy, selfish, and stupic to actually raise him.

  176. by 3angelsmamma

    On June 28, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    This entire story is ridiculous. Children today have absolutely NO respect for their parents. My sister, brother and I were all spanked and grew up with the utmost respect for our parents. I spank when appropriate as a last resort. If the society would stay out of peoples homes, kids today would behave a lot better.

  177. by grey

    On June 28, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    I’m thirty-seven to many of our generation suffered child abuse, and we fear for our children. It’s true the principle of my elementary school had a paddle; but I was a good kid…being a good kid was not a factor in my fathers drunken beatings. But now as a parent, no principle needs a paddle…he/she doesn’t know what goes on at home.

    As for this case, I’m sure there is more to it, the grandmothers response could have been fueled by knowledge of drug use or mental health issues.

  178. by jenny b

    On June 28, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    All I can tell you is when my now 7 year old was 4 and started mouthing, stealing from stores, and lying I tried putting him in the corner, I tried time outs, I sent him to bed, I Took away the tv. I did everything super nanny said. Nothing worked. When he started beating on his brother I started taking. Away toys one a time. Again, nothing. He got worse. Then the day he came hom from school with a note he cheated on a test and forged his teachers signature….I gave in and did exactly what I did to my oldest,I spanked him. And I continued everytime he did something wrong. And do you know what? A year later he is the most well behaved child his age. And it is not because he is scared of me. A a matter of fact we are closer now because we are not constantly arguing. So for all of you who think we are horrible for spanking our kids, look at the world? Was it like this when noone cared if we spanked our kids? Time for a gut check I think .

  179. by mom'o'three

    On June 28, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    I think this is absolutely ridiculous. I am a mom of three and have spanked all of them. There is a difference in beating and spanking. I give my children 3 warnings to behave, and after those 3 warnings and they still don’t listen they get tapped on their bottom. They get a choice to listen or not too. If they don’t they get spanked. The rule is 3 chances your out. I always give them a reason why they are getting spanked. I was spanked as a child and I turned out just fine. I think this rule of not spanking your child is crazy. The children these days are disrespectful to their parents and authority. They run around and they don’t listen to their parents. You should see the kids in my neighborhood. They curse at everyone and hit people and their parents, and the parents just sit there and allow it to happen. I think spanking your kids when they do something wrong is just fine as long as you don’t beat them or hurt them. When I spank my kids their feeling are hurt more then anything. I agree with many of the parents here and glad to see we think the same way.

  180. by Stephanie C

    On June 28, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    I am 21 years old with an 8 month old daughter and she WILL be spanked when the time comes. I was spanked when I was a child and I came out perfectly fine. That’s what’s wrong with parents today, they are too scared to discipline their children and that’s why today’s youth is the way they are. I work at a school and to be completely honest out of 350 kids that are there about 275 need a good a** whooping. I’m not talking about child abuse by any means but a good spanking is not uncalled for every now and then. PARENTS: GET A BACK BONE!!!!

  181. by kelsey spell

    On June 29, 2011 at 9:47 am

    this is ridiculouse i was spanked and i came out just fine what is this world coming tooo since when is the goverment allowed to tell us how to raise our children this is obsurred and uncalled for when my child does not listen i will pat her on the butt with my hand if i want to its none of the goverments buisnness because she is not being misstreated or abused shoot i had a paddel with holes in it and my name carved in it when i was a child

  182. by Christina

    On June 29, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Are you serious?!? I was spanked as a child, as well as my siblings, we have all turned out just fine. I have a 6 month old son, and if the day and time come where he needs to be spanked my husband or I will do so. Maybe more parents should spank their kids. When my husband and I have a babysitter for the evening I don’t want to go out to dinner and listen to your kid. Parents need to man up, grow a pair, and stop making excuses for their kids.

  183. by Dawn Falk

    On June 29, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    I dis-agree with the judge. My daughter has had a spanking or 2, always after asking nicely, given an additional warning & giving til the count of 3 to stop the bad behavior. She is nNOT beaten..three light swats & to her room to think about why she was spanked. Follow up is to sit down & talk about it & explain right & wrong.
    It is working fine & Sara is a very outgoing polite girl who IS NOT scared of her parents. The follow up iis important I think. Tell the judge…until you live with them DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO RAISE THEM. Thank You for your time

  184. by Melanie

    On June 29, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    We don’t know the background and what the history with the mother is so I reserve judgment on this case. As for spanking in general, there is a difference between spanking and abuse, and as long as a parent is using spanking appropriately a parent should have the right to raise their child in the way they see fit.

  185. by Miranda

    On June 30, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    After reading everyones thoughts, I too agree with a lot of you. A child needs a spanking. But if you are pro-spanking, or anti-spanking, one thing must be said. Children need parents not friends. I truely hate going to a store and hearing parents yell at their children because they are not being obedent. To teach to be good starts at home. But tell me, I know of a family who adopted 4 children the youngest, refused to be potty trained. He knew what to do, but he was being defient and not doing it. The mother was told by CPS and other “officals” that she can’t spank but she CAN lock the child in his room, OR put him in a TUB OF COLD WATER! This is way worse than just spanking the child. And by the way the child was nearing 4 years of age at the time. She now has since adopted the child and yes she and her husband do spank him, and I have seen the results, he is very settled, he doesn’t run around hitting the other children nor does he talk back to his parents. After Church I have seen him run to his mom or dad with a big smile on his face and showed them a picture that he drew. Is his self esteem low? No I don’t think so, I know that he feels excepted. But for a judge to say it isn’t done is very wrong, he broke the law. So once again, no matter your personal views, BE A PARENT, NOT A FRIEND! Children will always have friends but only you can be the parent!

  186. by Dolapo

    On July 1, 2011 at 9:32 am

    I got spanked severally as a child in Nigeria. I got enough bruises to even show my own children. . . lol. it was all for my good or else i would have become a spoilt little brat. lolllll.

  187. by Daddy

    On July 1, 2011 at 10:06 am

    It’s called Consequences… If they won’t respond to being “told” not to, the pressure increased, including a spanking. What ever happened to “it takes a village to raise a child”? Now the village will nark you and take your children.

  188. by Injustice

    On July 1, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Is a sad day when the government feels they have a right to tell us how to discipline our children. Who do these people think they are? The individuals that punished this mother have done the exact same thing. I bet if we asked any of them they have ALL left their children’s bottom red from a spanking. And “Make children understand?” People are ridiculous. Children may not understand all the words coming out of our mouths but they understand a pop on the bottom. I’m not saying it’s okay to beat your children and yes I do believe individuals who harm children should be punished but spanking is not harming. This whole situation is absurd and makes me disappointed and distrust our legal system even more. And people are wondering why all of our prisons are completely full. Well why don’t we all reread the story above and ones similar to it and ask ourselves that question again. A think this country functioned much better and was much stronger when we followed the ways of our founding fathers.

  189. by Vino Tinto

    On July 2, 2011 at 12:20 am

    For all of you who love to spank your children, I have something to say: Please stop acting like privitive cave men. There are unlimited ways on how you can discipline a child without spanking/hurting physically them. You can always control them by not giving them what they want. You can limit their playing time. You can send them to a corner for 30 minutes. Those who spank their children is because they don’t know their children and use the spank as a shortcut to solve the problem. If you really know your child well, there is no need to physically hurt them.

  190. by Regina

    On July 2, 2011 at 7:42 am

    So in Texas you can’t spank a child’s butt, but the state will kill the same child when he grows up and commits a crime? Boy is that backwards! Spank a few more and spare a few lethal injections!

  191. by Mandi Crable

    On July 2, 2011 at 9:45 am

    I feel sorry for this mom and believe the grandmother has a hidden agenda. Five years probation because she spanked and it left a little red mark?!? My parents would have been UP THE CREEK if that’s abuse.

    There is a HUGE difference between a spank and abuse. ENORMOUSLY HUGE. I was spanked from time to time as a kid and you know what – I deserved every single one of them.

    My parenting is a little different, but I’m in a different situation too. My children have all been adopted from foster care. They’ve been on the side of abuse and spanking would only regress them, not teach them anything.

    However, a parent has a right to discipline their child as they see fit, providing it is done out of love and desire to teach them right from wrong. If its done to harm or humiliate them, then that crosses the line. Its terribly sad to me that this grandmother and subsequently court have stepped in and reprimanded this mom for doing nothing wrong.

  192. by MB

    On July 2, 2011 at 9:47 am

    It’s ridiculous! If more parents spanked their children (spanking is different from beating-I don’t condone child abuse..), maybe there wouldn’t be so many delinquent teenagers and irresponsible adults. There is no sense in children throwing fits, getting their way, and talking back to their parents. Most parents these days just don’t spank anymore. And maybe it’s just me, but I’m not real impressed by how kids (of any age) behave these days….

  193. by Bunny

    On July 2, 2011 at 11:10 am

    How can the Judge impose him personal views and punish her onto this woman when she did not break the law.?!
    A Spanking is just that a spanking! ~ It is Not a beating!
    There is nothing wrong with parents wanting to teach their child a lesson and make them responsible and dependable children, ones that are accountable for their own actions and are aware that they can not always have their own way or to do what they want when they want.
    How dare this mom love her children enough to make them wonderful kids and not screaming brats that no none wants to be around.

  194. by stacy

    On July 3, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Just a point about the system, most people keep referring about….it is not just the Judge. This case is, rightly or wrongly, classified as a felony in Texas. What that means is that the case was presented by the District Attorney’s office to a grand jury. A grand jury is made up of 12 citizens from the county. This grand jury decided the case had merit and that it should be indicted as a crime, i.e. felony. They also had the option of a “no bill”, which means that they did not find merit and did not believe there was evidence a crime had been committed. I don’t know from the article if this was a plea bargain or a trial, however, any reputable attorney, whether court appointed, public defender or hired has the same duty to represent his or her client zealously. No doubt, there is a lot we, as mere readers, do not know about this case. The lesson for all parents is that spanking, although not against the law per se, you must be careful in this form of discipline to any child, at any age, you cannot spank and intend harm and leave marks.

  195. by Mike

    On July 4, 2011 at 9:34 am

    I’ve read some of these comments, and can’t believe some of the “logic” that’s been used to justify spanking. How is hitting your child to reprimand him from hitting constructive?

    Spanking is lazy. I was spanked and beaten as a child…I grew up not respecting my parents, but FEARING them. There is a difference. Kids are no less bratty and unruly than they were a generation ago…we just have access to the 24 hour news cycle and can read about it. Also, we are subjected to a society of instant gratification and culture based upon material greed and consumption, activities that do not lend to well rounded adults, but merely infantilized adults always searching for happiness in material things.

    Spanking doesn’t make you a well behaved person: respect, showing empathy and gratitude to others does. And that cannot be taught by raising a hand or swinging a belt.

  196. by Laugh out loud

    On July 4, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    I do not condone child abuse, but I believe a child needs to know its limits. If it means a spanking on the butt, then so be it. I would like to ask the parents that have used alternative methods how that is working out for them? Especially since some say put a child in a corner for 30 minutes when a child’s memory at 2 years old cannot comprehend or remember what happened more than 5 minutes before then. Their attention span is much shorter, so they are going to sit in one spot and not really understand the concept. Sounds brilliant. For everyone that likes to look the other way at the way societies children and teenagers are turning out, I am going to laugh at when it bites you in the rear in the long run. Like someone stated before these are the ones that will be running the world soon. Look at the generation difference, people ate meals together, boys held doors open, kids would sit in church or at a restaurant and carry a conversation. I got the wooden spoon a few times and I deserved it. It didn’t kill me. It taught me a lesson. I think if people want to talk child abuse, lets look at all the parents that let their kids become obese, and overweight for lack of properly feeding their children. Giving them high calorie and no nutritional food. I understand some children have health problems that give them a higher chance at being overweight, but not everyone. Then when you see the children that are this way you see their parents who let themselves go as well. They are slowly killing themselves by allowing themselves to be this way and are shortening their children’s lifespan by continuing that certain lifestyle. So to me a spanking is a little less life threatening then a life with diabetes, or high cholesterol at age 15, to heart attacks at the age of 20 which is being seen all over.

  197. by Monet

    On July 5, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    For people that against spanking…s/he probably don’t have a 2 year old. I understand that if you have an older kids whom you can explain reasons to them, but for a 2 year old you can try until you are blue in face s/he will probably be kicking and screaming to get what s/he wants….you know it very true about the terrible two.

  198. by Catherine

    On July 6, 2011 at 2:55 am

    OK, wait. The age of the child is not so important. If you feel that your child needs a spanking, you are the parent, then its your right. If no ones comes away from it bruised, broken, or bleeding . . . then it wasn’t abuse. Go to walmart and watch, you will be able to tell who spanks their kids and who don’t. The well behaved kids . . . get spanked.

  199. by Tara

    On July 6, 2011 at 10:57 am

    WOW…. I’m quite appalled at some of these pro-spanking comments. Let me first start by saying that the government should in NO WAY be allowed to tell parents how to discipline their own children, as long as it is not in excess. And 5 years probation is horribly wrong to give this mother. But people, really???!! How the hell does a child learn that physically hurting someone to get a point across is wrong if their own parent is hitting them??? How many times have I told my boys not to hit each other? How effective is my parenting if I spank them on the butt and say “No! We don’t hit!” Does that make any sense??? The reason children are becoming the way they are is not because spanking is no longer an acceptible form of discipline, it’s because parents are lacking in discipline at all! I strongly believe in enforcing rules and teaching my children to be respectful, considerate, obedient…. but it doesnt take me hitting and hurting them to get them to behave. And about the “walmart” comment earlier- lol! I feel the opposite. I think it’s the trashy, loud, obnoxious people there that I always see yelling at their kids and spanking them. My kids are FAR from perfect, but I have enough class to discipline them correctly and without causing a scene.

  200. by Denise

    On July 7, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Now thats just plain rediculous! Even the Bible says to discipline your children! Thats exactly why they are disrespectful toward adults today! Nowadays they hit the parents! Its a shame!

  201. by Kat

    On July 7, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Geesh … children ARE born good and it is more often *WE* adults who need the discipline. I have spanked my sons and I may need to do it again, but I DON’T do it because they are bad, and I make sure the discipline is understood as just that … discipline, designed intelligently to fit the lesson. Spanking children is not what makes them ‘good’ … it is to be appropriately used, AS the BIBLE teaches. My sons are and have always been good (they simply need to be appropriately guided is all).

    On a side note .. wow! to the fact that Casey, who clearly had no LOVE for her child (proven in her deception to EVERYONE when others started wondering where her daughter was), receive only 4 years in jail w/ a 4,000 fine whilst this woman is given 5 years probation for spanking her child. There is indeed something wrong here … :(

  202. by Aguystake

    On July 8, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    If it were ME, I’d get my kids back, and tell them to hug grandma before they leave. Because they’d NEVER see her again.

  203. by Bill

    On July 8, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Outrageous!

  204. by S. Miller

    On July 12, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    I say lets beat the living hell out of the grandma for being a stupid, interfering bitch! if I choose to spank my kids, they fully deserve it and I dare anyone to tell me I can’t do it because I can tell ya, they will get the shit kicked outta them for their efforts. Am I violent?? only towards people trying to tell me what I can and can’t do as a parent, I raised three kids and none of them are on drugs or in jail or abusive to anyone unless crossed. They have respect for those that show them the same courtesy.

  205. by S

    On July 21, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Wow.

    First of all, I doubt this news report – CSS doesn’t take kids away for being beaten with sticks, much less spanked

    However – the number of people here who think child abuse is peachy keen appalls me. Hitting other people is NOT Ok. And just because you were hit by your parents doesn’t MAKE it ok.

    As to those of you who think the world is going to hell because people don’t beat their kids – talk to people in prison. One thing you’ll find is that most criminals were beaten regularly as children.

    I have never beaten my child, yet he is kind, obedient, law abiding, and knows how to behave in restaurants.

  206. by Lorrie

    On July 22, 2011 at 11:45 am

    This makes me so angry. Not because she spanked, but because of how unfair Texas is county to county. I live in Bell County in 2003 my ex spanked my then 3 yr old so hard she had bruises and couldn’t sit without crying for two weeks. The police told me that because Bell County has much worse abuse they can’t do anything, but if it would have happened in another county he would have seen jail time. This story proves it.

  207. by maaike

    On July 25, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    funny, cause last time I checked it is LEGAL in TX for teachers to spank children in school!!
    so they are allowed to do so?? and this mother isnt??
    if I ever find our my kids get spanked by a teacher..

  208. by Orcat

    On July 25, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    People – read the article. She didn’t even have custody of her kids. In other words, she was already doing a lot more wrong. If she has anger issues (red marks…) she doesn’t need to be spanking them (just like a drunk doesn’t need to drink ‘even a little’)- for all you know she spanked them b/c it was hot out and she was having a hissy fit.

  209. by Erin

    On August 4, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    So Casey Anthony gets off for killing her daughter, but this woman gets 5 years probation for discipling hers? Kind of makes you wonder what the world is coming too?!

  210. by Michelle

    On August 9, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    @Noelle – well said! @ all those paraphrasing a nonexistent bible verse as justification for abusing your children – that’s no defense that will fly in any courtroom in the country. @ all those suggesting its the only way to discipline a young child because they can’t be reasoned with. Give it a try you will be surprised with the results. I reason with mine multiple times every day. She’s a loving, sweet, polite, well behaved little girl. And, yes, I think they way we are raising her has everything to do with it!

  211. by Jake

    On August 10, 2011 at 11:39 am

    @Noelle and Michelle

    Totally agree with both of you, society has decided many times what is socially acceptable, and i believe society has decided spanking is wrong, no ifs, ands, or “butts” about it.

    However, I do agree that this case is excessive. We need to understand that spanking still continues, and not that long ago spankings were even allowed in schools, so to expect a country to change in just one or two generations is ridiculous. Parents need to be given more information about how to discipline their child without resorting to violence, or losing their temper.

    Kids will push boundaries all the time, and its how you hold the line, not push back, that determines the type of adult they grow to be.

    She should have been let off with a fine and a warning.

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  214. by Christina

    On September 1, 2011 at 2:37 am

    WOW! Where do I even start!? Not all kids need to be spanked to get a point accross, but some do! My 19 month old ignores me, I try to tell her no in a nice way usually about 3 times, then I yell and if she still ignores me then she gets a quick little smack! Congrats to you parents who dont have to beat your kids! I was spanked and I turned out just fine! my fiancee was the middle child and he was damn near abused as a child and he is doing GREAT in life, outgoing, works very hard fo everything he has, yet his older brother and younger brother got everything handed to them and were so spoiled and barely ever got spanked and the older one is in jail and the younger one probably isnt too far behind! So i guess a lil ass whoopin every now and again isnt so bad! And maybe the law should get its priorities straight and focus on catching REAL criminals and child abusers!

  215. by Dr. Gwen Finestone

    On September 2, 2011 at 2:54 am

    Let’s look at this logically: a two-year-old child was spanked hard enough that her butt was red, not just for a minute, but long enough for her grandmother to arrive at the house, see the red marks, drive her to a hospital ER where nurses saw the still-existent red marks, and then called the police. How hard do you have to hit a child in order for red marks to appear…and last…all the way to the hospital? Pretty damned hard. And, I would guess, that she was not hit through a padded diaper, she was hit on a naked bottom. When she was hit, was she held by her arm, flying upward, her neck torquing, with potential damage to the nerves and blood flow into her neck and brain? Or was she folded over a knee, with her still forming spine and neck vibrated, as her bottom was pounded hard enough to leave red marks? Once upon a time, it was considered great fun to toss our small children and toddlers into the air, to hear their squeals of delight, only to find out that we were inadvertently causing their little brains to literally rattle in their skulls, causing brain trauma, and inflicting permanent damage to their cervical spines. Spanking is violence. Violence against a child is never acceptable. Moms, would it be ok if your husbands spank you when you don’t do what they want? Or would you prefer that they reason with you, explain to you, and discuss with you? Yes, even two-year-old children can understand the word “No” without it being paired with a spanking, or shrieking, or worse. Please read a book or two about positive parenting practices, instead of relying on the Bible for your parenting tips. Selectively choosing which passages you’ll apply to your children is hypocritical? Will you sell your daughters into slavery or arrange their marriages, just because it says it is okay in the Bible? By the way, how many of you are separating milk and meat? Or washing the feet of your hosts? That’s in the Bible, too. Furthermore, justifying your unimaginative and ignorant parenting behavior by citing your parents’ bad behavior is just plain ridiculous. I never hit my daughter and she grew into an accomplished teenager who made self-affirming choices, and is now a mother of two young sons and a member of the clergy, who would never use the Bible as her source for parenting tips. If you want your child to be respectful, you must treat your child with respect. If you want them to be trustworthy, you must give them trust. And if you want them to be responsible, you must give them age-appropriate responsibilities. Hitting them just makes them afraid of you. Fear and respect are not the same thing.

  216. by hillary

    On September 4, 2011 at 3:22 am

    I live in an area where it is socially unacceptable to spank your children. I see a lot of extremely well behaved and intelligent kids and young adults. All this what’s wrong with kids today? Come on the answer is not so simple as to spank or not. Honestly it doesn’t make a huge difference as long as you send a clear message to your child who is in control. It sounds to me like a bunch of immaturity, like your getting back at your own parents for beating you to make yourself feel better about it. Your no better than “the kids today” I’m sorry you were hurt and that you will continue to hurt because that’s the only way you know. It’s sad. Oh and once I read in the bible never to eat fish and diary products at the same meal…better for go that fishwich w/cheese next time.

  217. by Mom to two

    On September 4, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    @Jak, the “nonesxistent verse” you ae talking about is Proverbs 13:24.
    I spanked my children when they were younger as a form of consequence for breaking rules. There was always fair warning given and a “countdown” for them to modify their behavior. They knew that if I said 3 it was coming. I rarely got “2″ out of my mouth. Was it lazy parenting? I don’t think so. It was the form of parenting my husband and I decided upon though. Our children were never beaten. They love and respect us and do well in public and in school. I would like to see a follow-up story on this instance with more information such as clarification on when the children were removed from the mothers care and why. It is possible that the grandmother did have some other agenda as has been suggested. Was the judge up for re-elction in a liberal county? That could explain something too. 5yrs is definitely excessive.

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  219. by angel

    On September 13, 2011 at 7:05 am

    this is totally crazy! i believe people should watch the parents that really BEAT, ABUSE, their children not for discipline but because parents had a bad day at work, they are drinking and angry, for whatever reason they take out on their kids/spouses–this is where they need to be put in jail-not for a little “bootie spank” to teach child right from wrong–not every situation needs a spanking, timeouts work very well, just the tone of your voice-not yelling and screaming and verbal abuse but a tough love voice. grandma sounds evil!

  220. by Kari

    On September 13, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    I was spanked…I believe in spanking when the behavior warrants it. I have an above average IQ, know that VIOLENCE is wrong, and I’m the proyd mom of a very sweet 6 month old, who will probably get spanked when he misbehaves. Studies can show anything the researcher want them to show. EXPERIENCE shows what actually is effective!

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  222. by Elialia

    On September 28, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Time outs have their time and place. but the parent has to be there with the kid. otherwise it will not work.
    and after a certain age, they will not work at all. a single swat on the rump lets the kid know you are not happy with their behavior. first need to calm down before applying the swat.
    one problem we have, is that cps is willing to jump and remove any kids from parents who disapline them via swats, even time outs. and the brats know it too.

  223. by Heather

    On October 7, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    I think there is a difference b/w spanking and beating. . . spanking shouldn’t leave a mark and it shouldn’t hurt the child. but there are instances where is is needed to drive a point home. I was spanked as a child, and I turned out just fine, no long lasting ill effects on my psyche. . .now beating your children should NEVER happen, that will harm the childs psyche and have long lasting ill effects

  224. by Tiffany

    On October 7, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    The punishment could have been worse… however, isn’t it a bit ironic that she’s being given 5 years probation for a light slap on the bottom with her hand, and real child abuse often gets passed over in the court system because of lack of evidence?

  225. by Jewell

    On October 7, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    There is a lot of difference between discipline and abuse. And there was nothing wrong with what that woman did. Spare the rod, spoil the child, and end up with a juvenile delinquent. Sounds like that judge was only interested in job security because he’s bound to see those ‘undisciplined’ children in his courtroom later and then he’ll be sentencing them because he made a bad decision. Shame on him!!

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  228. by Danielle

    On October 8, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    To everyone who is quoting “Spare the rod spoil the child” you are NOT quoting the bible, you in fact quoting a satirical poem, that is taking the ‘mick’ out of what that bible says about punishing your children.

    HOWEVER- This is ridiculous! It really is. I’m not in favour of smacking your child and I believe it should be a last resort. But this child was not being beaten, or badly hurt (I don’t think a 2 year old needs smacking, but…) I believe this case should be taken back to court under a different judge. It would be thrown out.

    As for the Grand-mother, this mum’s mother in law I expect, did she never smack her son? Ever? if she did then she is a dirty hypocrite.

  229. by Mr. Teacher

    On October 10, 2011 at 12:32 am

    As a teacher, the problem is, hitting gets out of control. You, as a parent, teach your child that violence solves problems. The child then thinks, in my classroom, that hitting other students will solve problems. No. We need to use our words and conflict resolution. Hitting a child is a desperate act that shows a child that you do not have full control of a situation. And unlike a proper punishment to fit the crime, the child will only remember the abuse, and not the reason why she received the abuse.
    For the times later on that a smack or spank doesn’t solve problems, more extreme parental abuse usually will follow, and we have extreme cases where DEATH from “punishment” has happened. To be honest, as a teacher, the families that hit their children tend to have more wild and violent children. A cycle of abuse occurs. I never hear the parents of honors children speak of how proud they are that they spank their child, compared quite harshly to the troublesome child who knows only physical punishment. Those who do not have much more well behaved children who do quite well in school. Hitting mentally harms the child, makes the child loose trust in whoever hits her or him, and research has been done showing a connection between parents hitting their children and a lowering of IQ. It is a temporary solution that always ALWAYS escalates.

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  232. by lcovington

    On October 13, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    I am for spanking a child when they are clearly being defiant. Terrible twos actually can start as early as 15 months- and I did not make that one up (it was in a parenting magazine and book). All I know if when I stopped spanking my son for hitting me, throwing things when he was angry, he got worse. And my husband, who will not spank due to the physical abuse in his childhood also saw that. It is how you discipline your child. When I spank him on his hand or bottom after the timeout and taking the toys that he threw at people, I explain why and that I love him but what he did was unacceptable. Then I hug him a lot. I believe parenting is not a democracy. It is about being authoritative- Showing that you absolutely love your child enough to see past making them feel good for the moment and showing them that there are boundaries. If timeout, taking stuff away or losing privileges is not enough, a swat on the butt may snap them out of it. Then tell them you love them enough to discipline them so they won’t have to learn it from law enforcement. My brother was spared many times because of my mom feeling guilt- he had a very difficult road. He said with his own mouth that he wished she had put her foot down more when he needed it. So, if your child is able to behave well without a spanking, that’s great. But I know that many healthy adults have said that they were grateful that their parents disciplined them when they did.

  233. by Dawn Birchenough

    On October 14, 2011 at 8:55 am

    I think spanking is a mistake in raising children. It is usually done when a parent is upset or angry with the child’s behavior. It teaches children to either sneak, lie or use violence when they are upset or angry. Hitting a child also teaches the child that respect is not part of being in a family and following rules. Hitting teaches that rules are based on fear of punishment, rather than respect for others’ rights. Taking the time to use other means of discipline is difficult. Time outs work, removal of privledges works. Making discipline fit the needs of the child to learn better behaviors takes patience, creativity and self-discipline. Reacting to “bad behaviors by hitting a child is a temporary use of power to “correct” behavior. The behavior will happen again and spanking will only escalate the anger level for all involved. There are many children who learn to defy the rules out of anger over being hit by a caregiver.

  234. by LaVette

    On October 17, 2011 at 9:32 am

    This is why children today feel they can be disrespectful and even violent toward adults…we can’t do anything about it!!! If I were that woman in front of the judge I would’ve said…”You raise them then?” My mom did not tolerate any disrespect. I got my butt torn up when I tried to show out. And I turned out just fine! I am 5 months pregnant with my first child and I will spank my child if they try to test me. I dare someone to say something. the child will be going to live with them if they think they can do a better job raising them.

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  236. by MarinaH

    On November 9, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Look here, and listen well, GROWN-UPS. (This isn’t aimed at all of you, just the ignorant few.)

    I’m only recently 18 years of age, and I can honestly say that I didn’t recieve many spankings as a child. You know why? Because I learned my lesson. I straightened up quick after a spanking. IT HURT, but that’s what helped me to GROW UP and become a mature young adult.

    Oh, and @Ms. Danielle, “spare the rod, spoil the child?” That IS a biblical reference, so you should probably take the time to do your research before commenting, although the proper quote is, “He who spares the rod hates his son..” Proverbs 13:24

    And @Mr/Ms. L, YOU GOT LUCKY. You expect other children to be good just because yours are? You were beaten as a child, and now you don’t agree? That’s because a SPANKING is not equal to a BEATING. We’re discussing a parent who was ARRESTED for popping her daughter’s rear-end. And you refuse to raise your children off of “fairy-tales?” Sounds to me like you’re just another high-and-mighty HUMAN with too much time on your hands. You’re blessed to just have breath in your body.

    Look, I know I’ve ranted and raved. But this is utter MEDIOCRITY. Here I am, sitting in a class full of sophomores and juniors (the younger generation), and from what I can tell, probably half of them will grow up to be decent folks. I’m a senior, and I won’t stand for the complacency in society. You want your children to act right? EXERCISE DISCIPLINE. Time-outs and taking away something they like is a start. If that doesn’t work, you issue a warning. Then it’s time to lay down the law.

  237. by Seriously?

    On November 10, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    I think some people have not read the article very carefully: this woman DID NOT HAVE CUSTODY OF THE CHILD. She obviously had to have done SOMETHING to get her child taken away from her in the first place. Then the grandmother makes a complaint against her for spanking the child. There are obviously some facts here that weren’t completely spelled out in the article. The “spanking” was not the only factor.

  238. by Marcie

    On November 12, 2011 at 11:27 am

    I spank my children!! And I am not afraid to admit it. I don’t use spanking as a means of regular discipline. I use it as a last resort, to get their attention and show them I mean what I say and I have reached my limit of how much disrespect and disobedience I can take. If anyone ever tells me I can’t spank my children, I will tell them to kiss my a$$. If a court ever tries to punish me for spanking my children, I will fight them tooth and nail, with every dime I have. NO MORE NANNY STATE!!!! Give the authority back to the parents. That is why there are so many brats out there today. People are afraid to punish their children. Children these days are taught by the outside world to call DFS if their mommy or daddy spank them. It makes me SICK!!! I have a 19 year old daughter. She got spanked when she needed it. She does not drink, smoke, take drugs, or steal. She has never been arrested. She is independent, opinionated, strong willed, intelligent, beautiful, and oh so talented. Better to spank when they are 6 than to have to hire a bail bondsman when they are 16!!!!!

  239. by Applepiebetty

    On November 12, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    She got probation, because she didn’t break the law. I think that is the main point. There is no law against spanking in Texas, so you can’t sentence her for breaking the law. I would appeal his “obviously bias ruling.”

    Clearly “Spanking” has been taken out of society (though some kids just need “the look” to fall back in line). Just look how most kids from 4 to 22 act today as they keep testing for the boundaries of good behavior to guide them to adulthood.

    A spanking for deliberately doing something they know is wrong and have been warned about, is a good way to set boundaries and address the problem right then. No confusion of the events or facts later. “Not beating, but spanking.” A temporary painful area today and they remember tomorrow not to do that. They learn they are responsible for their behavior. Otherwise prison sooner or later could be a part if their future.

  240. by applepiebetty

    On November 12, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Ms. MarinaH
    I like your take on a spanking, but you’re Biblical resurch could use some more work too.
    Spare the rod and spoil the child is not biblical in anyway. it was from the17th century poem” Hudibras” by the British poet” Samuel Butler” (1612-1680), who enjoyed mocking religious extremists and hypocrites.

    The bible actually says in Proverbs 13:24: “He that spareth his rod hateth his son, but he that loveth him chasteneth (corrects, disciplines) him betimes (means early).”
    The rod is not meant as an actual rod, but that it is a parents duty to correct their child.
    So I’m thinking the “State” has no business interfearing in simple correcting by parents since this country was founded under God.

  241. by Haleene

    On November 12, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    To… Lcovington: My mother worked on the theory that a spanking and then telling us she loved us was good too, but it just confused us as to what love was, and carried on into mine and my sibling’s adult years. By the way there are small bones in the hands of a child. “That is not the area of a safe spanking.”
    I’m not against a spanking now and then (with the hand), but your disapproval is the thing that hurts them the most, but often (especially when under two) small children simple don’t understand. Case in point: My husband spray pants all his tools to keep them separate on construction sights. A few days after our son watched him do this to some new tools, our son took a can and sprayed all our appliances. He was just doing what daddy did, but didn’t realize there was a difference. They also forget since they are growing in mind so fast that yesterday seems lake a month ago to them and “no” has become every other word.
    Most of the time, watch your kids. Say no to what they are doing and then remove them from that to something else that is alright to do.

  242. by tina

    On November 13, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    This mother gets 5yrs probation for spanking her daughter and a texas judge is caught on tape saying…get me the belt the big one and telling his daughter that he is going to beat her into submission. He gets nothing done to him. This is not right. I was spanked as a child and I respect adults and am a good person. That is what is wrong with children today…. u can’t speak or spank or anything to your child but if that child does wrong they blame u for them misbehaving.

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  244. by Rox. M.

    On November 16, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    I usually don’t comment on many topics but today I’ve had enough of this one. I’m 21, and I was spanked like twice and was slapped when I disrespected my father with what I said. I had adhd, bipolar disorder, manic depressive, and obessive complusive. I was really messed up emotionally. My great great grandfather had actually physically abused me. But my father spanking me even just those few times helped me to realize what was acceptable behavior. I became able to function in society and overcome anxiety about it. It got to the point, even just those few times, that all that had to happen was to get a look from dad, or be told by mom to wait till dad got home. The latter usually really did the trick I’d end up punishing my self worse by waiting for it and dad never had to do anything. I’m really starting to get sick of all these people saying that it is no longer acceptable. Spanking is fine, as long as you aren’t hitting them hard enough to leave bad bruises. As far as leaving red marks, some kids need it. I have a younger cousin she is 6. She calls her father an a-hole and her mother a f-in b word. At 6!!! Imagine when she gets to my age!
    Another thing that bothers my is the fact that everyone tells people not to neglect their kids but that is what is happening no thanks to the fact that everyone is afraid to even spank them. So people go on the computer, play games on systems, or even just sit around texting to ignore their child 90% of the time.
    Also the reason that I mentioned about my great great grandfather is because I have been beaten and spanking is not even close to the after effects of being beaten. Kids are like dogs it the sense that they know what they have done wrong only for a little while. I personally know that a small quick tap to the side sometimes just hard enough to get their attention usually gets them to knock the behavior off.
    My uncle is an advocate of ‘talking about it’ and I’m gonna tell you it doesn’t work. His son got suspended from school in KINDERGARTEN!! For language and attacking another kid and when told by a teacher to stop and she tried a time out, he jumped up and hit the teacher and bit another kid the one he had previously attacked.
    So for all those out there who think that spanking is bad or causes emotional damage, oh and bad grades. I finished second in my class and at least the top 5% of my classmates had been spanked when they needed it. I did a project on it. I also had great work ethic I worked 2 1/2 years for a company and almost never called off, even when I had bronchitis, and my bosses loved me. The only reason that I no longer have my job is thanks to the recession.
    All right I’m done. Sorry if I’ve offended any of you. Thank you to those of you who took time to read this! Have a great day everyone!!

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  246. by rebelrose82

    On November 29, 2011 at 9:54 am

    give me a break, since wen is it illegal to spank a child?!?!?!? i contacted my local DHS office and they told me this: ” u can spank a child on the bottom with an open hand as long as u leave no bruiseing, and as long as its on the buttocks” so where does this judge get off by tellin this woman who obviously cares enuf about her kids to teach them right from wrong that ppl dnt spank anymore..? dumbest shit ive ever heard, this is why our children run over us like were nothing and we cave into them….well sry but NOT IN MY HOUSE , PARENTS ARE IN CHARGE NOT THE KIDS!!!

  247. by thinkitthru

    On November 29, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Interesting. Little kids hit each other. Little boys fight and punch and hit and wrestle. Kids get bruised everyday in play. But yet a parent can’t discipline their child by spanking them? Seems messed up. Are we going to outlaw play too?

  248. by depthcharge47

    On November 30, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Interesting that people use the argument of using spanking otherwise kids will turn into criminals.
    First, go to to any large jail and try to find guys there who turned into criminals because they were treated too softly and spoiled by their parents. Over and over again it has been shown that the large majority of these criminals were abused and abandoned as children.
    Second, check the incidence of violent crimes in countries where spanking has been outlawed for decades like Sweden. You will not see more crime there than in other countries.
    Finally, if the only way you have to discipline your kids is by hitting them, the only thing you doing is to teach them that it is OK to hit other people as long as they are weaker than you. There other ways to teach children about responsibility, discipline and consequences of bad actions. If you do not know any, go read a book, as my teacher used to say…

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  250. by fedupintx

    On December 6, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    This judge disgusts me; making personal judgements and lecturing when the TX law doesn’t even support him.

    A felony conviction with five years probation for spanking is outrageous. Whatever lawyer told her to plead guilty to this should be disbarred.

    This kind of case is one of the reasons I quit working for CPS as an investigator. After being hired due to extensive criminal investigations experience in child abuse, I only had 2-3 “serious” cases. About 80 percent of my case work was eople trying to get their ex-spouse in trouble and reporting BS like this.

    There’s a big difference between spanking and beating a child. The law recognizes that, this judge did not and he shouldn’t even be on the bench.

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  252. by Steven

    On December 9, 2011 at 7:19 am

    “Not to mention, studies have shown that spanking is linked to lower intelligence and low self-esteem in children.”

    I will say differently. I fought the courts like this woman did about child abuse. My son was running over everyone at school, running over my wife, and neighbors.yes, I gave him a spanking, and many times. Well, now he does act a lot better in school, the highest iq in the class/school, plus he is also considered to be a playboy at school. did spankings do this, no. but did it lower his intelligence, no. it improved his intelligence cause it made him focus more. it improved his self-esteem because he was not a bully anymore. Do I have to spank him like I did before, no. Now I can just talk to him and he will understand and not do it again. So you can say the pain receptors in the butt, cause the brain rewire itself.

  253. by mountaindale

    On December 11, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    Let me guess. The grandmother is the mother of the childs father, who is no longer in the picture. Maybe if she had spanked him he might be a better father and still be there. If I’m wrong on that I apologize.

    The judge should be spanked and then removed from the bench. The person, persons or voters who put the judge on the bench should be ashamed and embarrassed.

  254. by catherine mearns

    On December 12, 2011 at 8:51 am

    people do you not realise that you are the goverment ! they act on your say so. The solution to the problem lies within you, all you have to do is;
    take all your kids to city hall and explain that your kids are way beyond your control and need disciplined and as you have tried all the ways allowed by law, then the only alternative is for the state to discipline them.I bet you that things will change because,
    A) there are not enough places in fostercare or homes.
    B) prisons are so overcrowded by former undisciplined feral rodents that they could not possible send you all to jail for neglect as you can argue the point that you only want what is best for your child.

    The goverment rely on everyone being afraid of losing their child if they don,t conform, people you will lose your child eventually by just doing that CONFORMING.

  255. by Jessica

    On December 12, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Absolutely outrageous. I am totally against physical abuse, which is inflicted out of anger,k but spanking, when done in the right way and not out of anger (and yes, it can be done, although it’s hard) is not wrong. Timeouts and “reasoning” with a child do not usually work. There’s no respect for authority anymore because of our pansy, politically correct society. It’s sad.

  256. by A Parent

    On December 12, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    This is why we have such undisciplined and out of control children today. Discipline, including spanking, is a way to teach children right from wrong.

  257. by A Mom Of Three

    On December 13, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    This is so messed up. Take a look at the state that this country is in, and this plays a big part of it. Christians need to stand up and do there part, spread the word of God and try to stop evildoers.
    Spear the rod spoil the child, but yes there is a line. Discipline with Love and this would not be an issue.

  258. by Amy

    On December 14, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    I wholeheartedly believe in spanking children. Not just because I am a Christian & the Bible says so *Yes…it really does!* but because “Time Outs” DON’T WORK! I do not personally use my hand to spank, because I believe my kids should see my hand as a hand of love. But you better believe that those kids are afraid of the paddle. I always talk to them first, explain to them why I’m spanking them, then afterwards tell them I love them and that God loves them too. It’s the best way to handle it properly.

  259. by Izetta Neglio

    On December 14, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    I’ve been to the doctor many times in Germany (though fortunately never to the hospital) but I always found it to be quite a culturally-enriching experience! Altogether I’ve visited two different eye doctors, a dermatologist, and two different gynecologists there. The way things are done there are very different than in the US, which is both good and not so great. I loved how cheap it was, but hated waiting for hours in the waiting room, for example. I had a mix of doctors, ranging from super caring to simply down-to-business. If you ever have to see a doctor or go to a hospital in another country it can be really interesting! I’m glad that you had an overall positive experience.

  260. by Michelle

    On December 15, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Seriously?!? I was spanked as a child and I believe in & spank my child as well. I’m not saying that one should give spankings for everything, depends on the situation. There is a difference between spanking and abuse. I’ll be damned if the government will run my house! As in previous posts, that is what is wrong with the world today.

  261. by Alexis

    On December 15, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    To all the people saying this is excessive: You have no clue a to what the whole story is. This mom doesn’t have custody of her own children. To me, that means she isn’t a fit parent. Maybe she has a history of abusing her kids? Who knows. But I highly doubt she was sentenced to 5 years probation because of this offense alone. To me this is a biased article.

    On a side note, it scares me that most people are still pro spanking. Spanking is the ready way out of discipline. The reason children are out of control is because they have no discipline, not because they aren’t being spanked. How can you expect to have a loving, trusting relationship wroth your children when they fear you…and trust me, if you hit your child they elk learn to fear you. Anyone who is pro spanking, please pick up a current child development book and educate yourself. I believed in spanking too until I became educated and got my masters in child development.

  262. by Mikie

    On December 15, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    I was spanked when necessary and was not scarred for life because of it. I was scarred by the fighting my parents did while I was growing up. I DO spank my children, and will continue to do so.

  263. by Jen

    On December 16, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Alright – this day and age people are taking this stuff too far. Since when can the courts tell us how to raise our children. I agree that there is a degree to spanking that can become and is considered abuse. But a little pop on the but for running toward the street – a slap of the hand when reaching for something hot – really. Also, if my daughter gets out of line – and is not acting as she should – I always try timeout and talking to her first – but she is 3 and sometimes that does not work. Sometimes she needs a little spanking to get her back in line. I get that this may sound cruel but I was spanked as a kid and have since, graduated from highschool – maintained a 4.0 throughout all of my college years – have a great job and own my own business. I am married and have a great husband. Spanking did not ruin my life. Had I been allowed to get away with everything – I truly believe that I would not be as successful and would would wait for the world to bring me success.

  264. by Albertina Saluan

    On December 17, 2011 at 9:33 am

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  265. by MaryE

    On December 17, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    I believe in spanking, I also believe any spanking harsh enough to leave marks on a 2 year olds bottom is more than spanking, that’s beating a 2 year old and Mom needs to be on probation and take parenting classes. I wish Indiana had similar laws, then maybe we wouldn’t have so many babies being beaten to death.

  266. by MLH

    On December 17, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Hmmm. Guess it’s time to start using a whistle and a radio controlled shock collar. Blow the whistle as a warning … if the negative behavior doesn’t stop, then press the shock button. Doesn’t leave any physical marks and there is no physical contact or violence. Problem solved! :) ))

  267. by Danielle

    On December 22, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    i think the judge’s sentencing is ridiculous. i am 30 years old and was spanked as a child for the same things that i spank my children for. i am a very well rounded person and thank my parents for their discipline. i have seen too many “adults” my age and younger who weren’t spanked as a child for their transgressions, but were instead sent to “time-out” or “grounded” and they were and are some of the rudest and in some cases totally TOO sensitive people out there! when you spank someone or smack their cheek or hand as punishment for something said or done that was inappropriate or wrong, then it is going to leave SOME kind of red mark, or you might as well have just told that child, “Good job!”. my children do not fear me or my husband. they love us very much, evidenced by the random times they come up to us and ask for a hug or a kiss or ask us to sit with them on the couch and they cuddle up with us. now, granted i don’t know this woman’s situation. like, how long BEFORE the grandmother saw the marks on the child’s bottom did the spanking happen? if it was a prolonged period of time, then yes, that was certainly unnecessary and could have been handled a little less harshly. but, if the child had JUST gotten a spanking and the grandmother took the child right then and looked and saw the redness, then that’s different. also, it depends on what the child’s infraction was. if the child was repeatedly doing something she already knew at the age of 2 that she shouldn’t be doing, and it was something severe enough to warrant a smack or two on the rear end, then that’s all well and good in my opinion. but if it was basically just to good measure or something the child doesn’t understand, than there again, the mother probably went a little above the level she should have.

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  269. by April

    On December 22, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Hi! Just wanted to tell everyone that I am a preschool teacher and just today I was slapped by a 4 year-old child in my arm! I believe in spanking most definitely to give discipline to teach children right from wrong! Children today are spoiled, all about me, me, me, disrespectful, rude, ignorant, selfish, and are brats! Let me tell you if I had ever slapped a teacher at any age, my parents would have spanked me and I would never even think about doing it again! Thank goodness, I never did anything like this as a child! So, tell me how I, as a preschool teacher, could use other positive techniques, to stop this child from slapping me? It happened during naptime- he didn’t want to lay down on cot and rest quietly- tried redirection and he slaps me! Sorry, but my own 4 year old child knows not to hit me, his father and anyone else because we teach him that hitting is not o.k, and my son is as happy and a smiling child as you will ever see! I spank when it is absolutely necessary! My son is respectful, has manners, uses please and thank you, and does as he is told to do (most of the time with no fuss)! I spank him for his own good and because I do not want him to end up as a criminal and as a brat that no one wants to be a round! All I have to say is time-outs, redirection, and taking away privileges do not work for all children! I tell you as a preschool teacher, I am sick and tired of trying to get children to listen, be respectul, polite and well-mannered when at home they are in charge and do not have any discipline! I can’t make them listen and act right if their parents’ are not doing their jobs’ of disciplining them at home! Also, spanking is not child abuse! There is a huge difference between spanking and beating a child!!!I was spanked when I was a child and I deserved to
    be spanked for things I had done( very naughty and mean)! I am a well-adjusted adult, very smart (graduated from college), high self-esteem and I am extremely grateful that I had parents who loved me enough to make sure I didn’t turn into a criminal and wasn’t a brat!

  270. by Sara

    On December 22, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Have to say: Most of you don’t know how to spell. That goes for both pro-spanking and anti-spanking parents.

    Maybe…you should take your heads out of your asses and spend some more time being a parent – fucking losers! Pick up a dictionary or use spell check! Everyone needs to mind their own business and stop judging each other. This back and forth is ridiculous! Some kids listen without needing a crack – some are born stubborn and defiant … it’s called life – it takes all kinds!

  271. by James W. Ma

    On December 22, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    I think spanking children is good for them. It will help them become stronger. Spanking is considered a sign of disgrace and shame, so they have to take the shame and learn and grow from it. I spanked students for 18 years and they become so successful. I am all for spanking; teachers should spank students with rattan sticks, parents should spank kids with rattan sticks as well. This judge is totally stupid, since he has no clue on what the hell he is saying.

  272. by Scott

    On December 23, 2011 at 9:53 am

    People need to stop using reasoning that doesn’t work in order to justify spanking/hitting their children. To those that say that people’s lack of spanking has caused crime to increase so much in recent years…. Just take a look at the actual data. Crime has gone down over the last 20 years, after rising for the 30 years before that. It was highest in the 1980-1990 area, when baby boomers were becoming adults (the ones that seem to love spanking the most). Following generations have had less crime. Simple as that. To those that say that kids who aren’t spanked behave terribly and are terrible kids… That is from a lack of parenting. NOT a lack of spanking. They are not the same. I know several people who were not spanked growing up, my wife included. Are/were they bad kids? Absolutely not. They are/were actually very well behaved kids. But guess what? Their parents were actually responsible and disciplined them, and they did it all without hitting their kids. Believe it or not, IT IS POSSIBLE! In fact, my wife is a teacher, and we have lived in several places so far, and the places where her students have had the worst behavior were in the depressed, conservative, redneck areas where they most likely did the most spanking. And to those who use the “I was spanked and I turned out fine/good/great/whatever”… That is one of the worst rationales I could imagine for something. So if a child is molested by their parents, but they still turn out okay as an adult, does it make molesting them okay? People will probably be offended by that, and say that is ridiculous, and you are right. But this is the rationale those people use. Now, I know that this next bit may sound like hippie nonsense to some people, but I’m willing to bet that if you were to ask people if they wanted our world to be peaceful or violent (fighting, violent crime, wars, etc), that just about everyone would say they want it to be peaceful. Well, to get to a peaceful world we have to draw the line somewhere about when violence is acceptable. Quite simply, the best place to draw this line is right at the start. How are we supposed to tell our kids that violence doesn’t solve problems and have them truly understand that when they are being disciplined by a form of violence. This may sound like an oversimplification at first, but it is true. To hit a child as a form of “discipline” is still teaching them that violence (even if only to a certain degree) is acceptable. This is nothing new. There are plenty of other countries (mainly in Europe) where spanking is illegal. And imagine that, these are some of the most peaceful countries in the world too. So apparently a lack of spanking has not made them more violent, and has in fact probably contributed to them being more peaceful. The route to a peaceful society has to start with a mental shift. We need to get away from the idea that violence is acceptable in some places. If we set ourselves and our children up to be peaceful from the start, then we can move to becoming a peaceful nation and world as a whole. Again, you may think this sounds like a bunch of hippie talk, but I hardly think that a desire for nonviolence makes someone a hippie.

  273. by use your words

    On December 29, 2011 at 1:53 am

    I was spanked and my partner was spanked.

    It taught us nothing except to fear adults; to hide our true selves.

    Even as a small child, I understood the line,” this hurts me worse than it hurts you” to be pure BS.

    It started me questioning authority. That questioning led me to understand that religion is also BS.

    Now we are happy atheists. We turned out just fine.

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  278. by Lisa

    On February 6, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    I do believe in spanking, however I don’t condone spanking and talking to the child and spanking again over and over for the same reason especially with the childs pants pulled down that to me is ABUSE…..it is excessive and down right mean!!!! And believe me this does happen more often than people care to realize and it’s usually from a parent that was abused theirself as a child…..so I feel that the sentence is fair at least they are offering parenting classes to learn how to be a good parent to her children…and “back in the day” it was acceptable to spank “beat” and leave marks on kids but now it’s not. And I think it is pretty sad when parents nowadays to treat their precious children a gift from God like this and then go around and tell people about it as if they are bragging about. Now I could go on and on about this but I will leave this with you—children are a gift from God and can be taken away from you in the twinkling of an eye, I know because I lost my very precious daughter 5 years ago, not from abuse but I think it was from lack of attention from the people she loved the most….it was an accident but none the less she is gone now and she was only 20 years old at the time….
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  279. by Kathy

    On February 10, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Funny I was never spanked through out my whole childhood,and now that I am older and as I look back I wish I had been spanked maybe it would have kept me out jail I learned the hard way,it took me many years to get my life on tract.Now I have children and when it is called for they get a swat on their bottom.So as far as I can tell not spanking doesn’t keep you out of trouble,and have found that a swat can help get your child back on track.

  280. by Jessika

    On February 13, 2012 at 8:28 am

    This is insane. I agree with everyone else. If the courts want to know why there are so many problems with our Youth in this day and age, right here is the reason. In the old days there were less crimes and violence because no one told parents it was wrong for them to disciplined their children. My daughter is a year old and I will admit there are times she gets a swat on the but or even her fingers. How else are you supposed to teach children right from wrong seriously. I’ve seen so many parents who play the “no, no, no” game. It doesn’t work. If all you do is tell a child no don’t do that over and over and over again, all they are gonna learn is that there are no consequences for their actions. And the whole time out thing, works to a point but when the child keeps getting up and you keep putting them back down to them it’s a game and they find it funny, again teaching them that there is no real consequences for their actions. I was spanked as a child, I turned out just fine. My husband on the other hand was rarely disciplined and now I have the issue of undoing the damage his mommy caused because he thinks he can do whatever he wants and I’m supposed to just deal with it.

    If you want your child to grow up with manners to be respectful, and to know right from wrong, occasionally spanking is necessary. Otherwise you wind up with spoiled brats who think the world owes them a living and they can treat people however they want.

  281. by smomnc

    On February 13, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Spanking teaches NOTHING. Instead of taking blind rage out on your children, teach them what they did wrong. You can punish a child without shaming and physically abusing them.

  282. by mninmn

    On February 25, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    From an in-controlled parent, an appropriate few swats the rear end, after a definant child has repeatedly disobeyed is appropriate. It is not illegal. Consequences are needed to teach a child not to do it again.

    Discussion and reasoning are not appropriate with a child who is not developmentally at the age to benefit from that.

    No, appropriate paddling does not teach violence, it teaches the need for making changes to wrong behavior.

  283. by Virginia Nordin

    On February 26, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    My mother gave us the “stern look” and pinched us on the underside of our upper arm. OUCH! We behaved in public! We behaved everywhere!

  284. by Margaret Murphy

    On February 27, 2012 at 11:51 am

    In my opinion, you do what you have to do, within reason, to make your child understand that you are boss. That sounds harsh but there are so many children these days that have no respect for anyone else. How is NO consequences helping these children to deal with life as they grow up? Spanking isn’t the only form of disapline however it is one of the ones that makes them turn their head and listen. AND as long as my child isn’t injured (and a red mark on their leg or hiney end is not an injury) then the government needs to keep the heck out of my family and life. WHAT about all those children that have psychological abuse and grow up with scars worse than any spanking????

  285. by Elizabeth Kennedy

    On March 1, 2012 at 11:34 am

    THIS IS NOT THE JUDGES CALL. IF A CHILD IS ACTING IN A WAY WHICH THE PARENT SEES AS INAPPROPRIATE THAN THE PARENT SHOULD DISCIPLINE THE CHILD. YOU SEE SPANKING SHOWS THE KID WHOS BOSS. I HAVE 3KIDS 10 MONTHS TO 6 YRS AND PROUD TO SAY THAT MY MOM SPANKED ME AND I HAVE SPANKED AND WILL DO IT WHEN TALKING OR EXPLAINING DOES NOT WORK! WHO THE HELL DOES THIS GOV THINK THEY ARE??? THIS IS ABUSE OF POWER AND IF THIS IS THE WAY THE GOV WANTS TO PLAY THIS GAME THENTHEY MIGHT AS WELL BAN GETTING PREGNANT UNLESS YOU TAKE CLASSES AND HAVE A LICENSE TO PARENT. WTH IS WRONGWITHPEOPLE. PROPER DISCIPLINE INLCUDES SPANKING AND KNOWING WHEN AND HOW TO USE IT… THEY ARE KIDS PEOPLE, WE ARE PARENTS, WE ARE TO TEACH THEM RIGHT FROM WRONG AND THAT EACH TIME THEY MESS UP OR DO SOMETHING BAD REGARDLESS THERE WILL BE A CONSEQUENCE! THAT JUDGE IS AN ASSHOLE AND NEEDS TO SEE THAT IF SPANKING KEPT HIM IN LINE THAN IT OBVIOUSLY WORKS. SHE DIDNT BRUISE THE CHILD NOR DID SHE MENTALLY OR PHYSICALLY DAMAGE THE CHILD. I HAVE BEEN STARED AT FOR SPANKING MY 3 YRD OLD AFTER 3 TIMES OF TELLING HER NOT TO TOUCH OR RUN FROM ME IN PUBLIC…MY REACTION TO THOSE WHO STARE IS..” IF I DONT DEAL WITH HER STICKY FINGERS NOW THEN YOUR TAX DOLLARS WILL BE FUNDING HER PRISON STAY LATERSO MIND YA DAM BUSINESS!” IN FACT I BELIEVE THAT THOSE MOMS WHO STAND UP AGAINST THIS RIDICULOUS THOUGHT THAT HITTING YOUR KIDS WHEN THEY ARE OUTOF LINE OR BROKE A RULE IS WRONG IS THE WAY TO GO! MOST PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO DISCIPLINE AND THEY GIVE TO MUCH SLACK TO THE KID AND ARE NOT PERSISTENT. THE METHOD TO THIS IS THAT AFTER THE SPANKING ASK THEM ” DO YOU KNO WHY YOU WERE SPANKED?” ASK AGAIN AND THEN TELL THEM WHY.. EXPLAINING THAT YOU LOVE THEM SOO MUCH BUT IF NEEDED YOU WILL DISH OUT THE WHIPPINGS IS NECESSARY.. SCREW POLITICALLY CORRECT. BECAUSE THOSE PARENTS WHO BEAT THEIR KIDS TO THE POINT THAT THEIR KIDS SHUT AWAY FROM EVERYONE DONT EVEN GET RECOGNIZED HALF THE TIME AND NOTHING IS DONE..ITHINK IF YOUR GOING TO ACCUSE SOMEONE OF BEING ABUSIVE DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST BEFORE YOU MAKE A JUDGEMENT LIKE THIS..

  286. by Kelly

    On March 1, 2012 at 11:36 am

    I do not believe in Spanking unless the child is uncontrolable. I have never had to spank my children. When ever I gave my children to the count of 5 they would listen by the time I got to three. I do not know what I would of done if I would of gotten to 5 lol. i just can not imagine causeing my child pain like that. It would break my heart. There are far too many things you can do then causing physical pain. take something away or make them go to bed early no TV no games not toys no snack. Anything is better than pain.

  287. by Sandra Lee

    On March 1, 2012 at 11:37 am

    This is absolutely ridiculous! 5 yrs, not for child abuse, but for spanking her child in a state where it is not illegal to spank a child. The judge needs to get a life and quit using the court as a way to further his own political agenda. He is supposed to be upholding the law not trying to make law and headlines!

  288. by Athena Smith

    On March 2, 2012 at 11:12 am

    There’s spanking, and there’s beating; and there’s spanking a child, a baby, or a teen. All are different, and must be handled differently. This woman spanked a 2-year old and left a resounding red mark that apparently stayed awhile. OTOH, 5 years is a bit much, as she only used her hand, on the butt. Sounds like the parenting classes could be helpful, though. A two-year old gets a good swat on the butt in the immediacy of the situation; not a hard spanking. I also wondered what the dynamics of the mother/grandmother situation were, as it seemed a bit much for grandma to report mom to the system for a spanking. There is likely much to this that the article doesn’t get into.

  289. by Woundedbadger

    On March 2, 2012 at 11:51 am

    this is the problem with society….the children are told we cannot spank them…so they learn that their is notultimate authority…in their world….you see spanking is to show where the boundries are …. it tells them a limit will be set and met….that there is always s line you cannot cross…if we cannot spank them you know what they say …..you can’t make me….and later to the world in gerneral…you can’t make me do anything….wanna bet..bring them to Texas where we still belive in manners, respect for your self and others and your elders, and someone else’s property….and in Texas we belive if your mamma couldn’t teach you well t takes a tribe to raise a child and well help teach you what your mamma could not….or what you did not want to accept as truth from your mamma well we will re-inforce that in a good way for all…..spanking is only for rare use …when used correctly in the beginning you won’t needto spank them as much later….i hve spanked my child 4 times in her life and she will admit she was being bad….most tmies we talk it out or use punishment like no tiv or no trip this weekend….spanking is not and should not be needed much is disapline is part of their routine….

  290. by Bob

    On March 4, 2012 at 11:04 am

    This half ass judge should be removed from his bench and never be allowed to practice law again he is a disgrace to all humans and he should be removed shame on you judge you should hang your head you are a disgrace…

  291. by BeLove

    On March 7, 2012 at 9:55 am

    I did not read all of the above comments but I believe this story could be taken out of context. I am a foster parent. When I read the story I immediately picked up on the fact that the mother does NOT have custody of the child. The grandmother does. Therefore, there’s a good chance the child had previously been removed from the custody of the mother for a reason, thus, the seemingly harsh sentence for “just” spanking the child.

  292. by Laura

    On March 8, 2012 at 10:47 am

    This is what is wrong with “OUR” country today! People like us should stand up and voice our opinion to our lawmakers and try and make a difference in the way our governmnet is being ran. This is why we have terrible children in the classroom, and society, BUT OUR PRESIENT wants to hold us as teachers acountable for our students test score. Our whole political governmnet should all be replaced, tarred and feathered! This is just plan down right ignorance on their part.

  293. by michelle

    On March 9, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    That’s what’s wrong with all these kids today…they need a good old fashioned spanking. I didn’t believe in spanking until my smart mouth daughter got out of control. She straightened up real quick when I finally resorted to spanking.

  294. by tracy

    On March 12, 2012 at 10:28 am

    I am a parent. My children are just that, children. They need to LEARN from me. Was I spanked, oh yes. I was spanked with switches, razor straps, belts, my father’s hand, those stupid little paddles after the ball came off. I never swore, stole, threw a fit in public, ran in the street by myself, hit other kids, or embarrassed my parents. My kids don’t do the things they are told not to more than once. I used my hand, but they know it’s going to hurt. I TOLD human services that if they really thought my kids were in danger, come get them and YOU raise them. They never came. Huh? Must not be that abused. My friend doesn’t spank her kids. I won’t watch them. They are little hellions. They’ve been thrown out of pre-school. Yep, I’m the bad parent. Give me a break. My 13 yr old tells me she loves me in front of her friends, gives me hugs and is ALWAYS home on time. She never abuses me or her 4 siblings, she is pulling straight A’s and has not, to my knowledge, tried alcohol or drugs. I have NEVER had to leave a store, because they were causing a scene. And btw, non-spankers, you’re kids DO make a scene. My friends little girl jumped out of a shopping cart because she “didn’t want to sit in it”, giving herself a bloody nose. Who’s harming their kids worse?

  295. by Traydayz

    On March 15, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Did anybody know that grandma will be getting a check for taking in these kids? She will also get food stamps,medicare ad all sorts of government aid. Sometimes you have to look at people’s motives for doing what they do. I betcha she would sing a different song if she had to be financially responsible for these children. That is why she most likely went for custody.

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  299. by Cheryl Banks

    On May 13, 2012 at 2:23 am

    You have to remember that these so called Experts don’t live with YOUR Children! Dr. Spock stated that Spanking your kids would bruise their fragile little EGOS… His son committed SUICIDE at the age of 21; his father more than likely talked him to death. I am the Mother of 4 children and I have 3 step children. Except for my husband’s oldest who is 27 I have raised or help raised 6 of 7 kids/5 of them currently live with us. One of them is 19,married and has 3 kids herself. I have had parenting classes and 123 Magic courses it even tells you to SPANK your child one or two times if necessary!!! I had to crap knocked out of me when I was a kid (1) at school because corporal punishment was still allowed at the time and then again (2) when I got home and a third time if my grandparents found out.. Yup I had a very red rear end and at times I looked like a damn Zebra if I was especially unlucky to get nailed with a belt or whatever else was “Handy” I have an older brother and sister. They were on the receiving end many times and if we were out in the woods at camp we had to cut our own Switches from green popluar trees or worse red canes. One the government can KISS my BIG BUTT my kids are’nt out getting into trouble every chance they get with the law. I have and Will tan my kids hides so to speak except the two youngest. I only go swats per age if a time out or two dozen didn’t get the message across and I only use my hand. My hubby has a very effective parade ground beller and that usually is enough to scare the snots into knocking off whatever they are doing because they found out if Mom is called in it will only be worse on them Swearing,gets them 25 sentances and whining gets them more writing! Plus apology letters :) This works well with teenagers and so does a curse word jar 50 cents a word or more depending on the language that came out of their mouth. If I catch them doing it online no computer for a week first time 2 weeks the 2nd and so on. My kids are slow learners but thay are getting the message LOL. I think that the lady in question does need help but the sentance was overkill and inappropriate. The most effective way is be consistent with your parenting and wether you are a single parent or it is okay to ask for HELP; it doesn’t make you any less the parent it makes you a better parent when you know you have reached your limit. If you can let someone else take over the situation and go for a walk to cool off and clear your head ,get coffee or a nap whatever. I find sceaming bloody murder helps too stamping my feet and then laying on the floor and show them how silly they look by having my own tantrum works great even in stores!! 5 minutes of being embarassed in front of total strangers is worth the aggravation I am getting and just as likely everyone one else in the vicinity is getting also.

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  301. by Nickey

    On June 21, 2012 at 11:55 am

    As of yet, I haven’t HAD to spank my child. I just give him the “eye” and he apologizes for his behavior and corrects himself. Yes I put fear in my baby’s heart but that fear is out of respect for his mother’s rules! Since he is getting older and will be more influenced by school mates, if I have to spank him – trust and believe I will! Send me jail… give me probation… I don’t care. I REFUSE to have a disrespectful child that knows he can and will get over on me! Mother’s these days and too sensitive to their child needs and are trying to be their kids friend rather than teaching them discipline. Don’t get me wrong, spanking isn’t the only form of discipline and I am not saying you should beat the crap out of your child. There is a difference between child abuse and discipline. There ARE limitations and a level of respect to your child(ren) when correcting improper behaviors.

  302. by Made In America

    On July 14, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Spanking, and other forms of discipline, is best left to the parents…not a judge or other government entity.
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  304. by gerri

    On October 23, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Probation. 5 years. That judge must be full of hogwash. My childrens father did not believe in spanking. I was threatened by him with cps if I ever hit them. And I have two beautiful children who have become respectful grown law abiding citizens that are drill sargents as parents today. So with that in mind I will leave you with this; Both of my children went to jail (not prison but the same I guess in some ways)the drugs that were so prevalent and the drinking led them onto roads I would never have imagined for my children. Yes, that is exactly what you get when there isnt discipline. Spanking is not wrong and while one uses spanking, one does not. They have both looked me dead in the eye wnen Ive complained that they were too hard on my grandbabies and said, “Mom, do you want them to go down the path I did? Maybe we should have been spanked”. These judges and the government need to stay out of family lives unless there is undue violence and abuse! God knows they need to quit wasting our tax dollars on ridiculousness!

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